for (;;);{"error":null,"payload":{"timeline":"\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-older-transactions-are-hidden\" data-sigil=\"show-older-block\"\u003eThere are a very large number of changes, so older changes are hidden. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/showolder\/PHID-TASK-b7gnio5vlkkp3nq2t3ob\/?after=2138129&quoteRef=T52864\" data-mustcapture=\"1\" data-sigil=\"show-older-link\"\u003eShow Older Changes\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_223\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/boam3qtlm7uwjhjzx3z6\/PHID-FILE-sqqnvifcgurckfukdqry\/profile-Rob_Lanphier_014_-_Berlin_2011-128px.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2138129\" id=\"2138129\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_222\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_0\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/AdHuikeshoven\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_1\"\u003eAdHuikeshoven\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2138129\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_221\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 21 2016, 2:55 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-21 02:55:16 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_219\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_220\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_68\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#2138089\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_5\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#2138089\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_12\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Tgr\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#2137966\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_4\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#2137966\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_11\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@RobLa-WMF\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/JanZerebecki\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_9\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@JanZerebecki\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e - I don't have authority to resource this.  I was hoping \u003ca href=\"\/p\/mark\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_10\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@mark\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e or someone from \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/sre\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-shade phui-tag-violet phui-tag-shade phui-tag-icon-view \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_8\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core \"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-users\" data-meta=\"0_7\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eSRE\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e would respond, but I believe that so far, all of the momentum seems to be around \u003ca href=\"\/T124690\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_3\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT124690: Successful pilot of Discourse on https:\/\/discourse.wmflabs.org\/ as an alternative to wikimedia-l mailinglist\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf by "momentum" you mean WMF resourcing than so far neither of those have any.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNope, I mean interest in spite of explicit WMF resourcing.  \u003ca href=\"\/p\/AdHuikeshoven\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_13\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@AdHuikeshoven\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e has been building interest in the pilot he's been running for the past few weeks.  My understanding is that the goal of \u003ca href=\"\/T124690\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_6\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT124690\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e is to make a case for applying WMF funds toward a Wikimedia community discussion replacement for Mailman2 mailing lists.  Discourse seems to be the only alternative that is being seriously considered right now, and that's mainly due to Ad's efforts.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI understand why Operations hasn't been eager to take this on.  The \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/codfw-rollout\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-shade phui-tag-disabled phui-tag-shade phui-tag-icon-view \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_15\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core \"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-flag-checkered\" data-meta=\"0_14\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003ecodfw-rollout\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e clearly takes precedent for \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/sre\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-shade phui-tag-violet phui-tag-shade phui-tag-icon-view \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_17\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core \"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-users\" data-meta=\"0_16\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eSRE\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e.  This past quarter has been pretty tumultuous outside of the Ops team.  I only took interest today because someone else brought up Discourse, and that caused me to look here and notice that I hadn't replied to Jan.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_230\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bru4oz4o3munyrwd2hfx\/PHID-FILE-3jr75egpeinyoxz7sxvh\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/AdHuikeshoven\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2139275\" id=\"2139275\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_229\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/AdHuikeshoven\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_69\"\u003eAdHuikeshoven\u003c\/a\u003e added subscribers: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/sumanah\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_70\"\u003esumanah\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/brooke\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_71\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e brooke\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2139275\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_228\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 21 2016, 6:57 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-21 18:57:43 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_226\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_227\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_72\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_18\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@RobLa-WMF\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e , thanks for the kind words. The status of Discourse is a pilot a test and generates feedback about what people like and what people don't like. There are some strong preferences to receive updates or notifications by mail about discussions and to be able not only to reply by mail to a discussion thread but also to be able to create a new thread. Some people have been asking for synchronization of mailing lists and Discourse. As, if and when that materializes Discourse can or will coexist alongside Mailman mailing lists, just like gmane coexists alongside Mailman. Discourse provides an alternative web interface and some extras. GNU Mailman 3.0 also provides a web interface. After an updrade to Mailman 3 there might be a reduced level of interest in moving to Discourse.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWe are all in the same Wikimedia movement in which there are over 900 wiki websites. Project related discussion can and should be primarily on wiki. For movement wide discussion there is meta, and those discussion can and should be primarily on wiki. (This discussion should be on meta, or on mediawiki.) The mailing lists exist because they all exist for too long.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/sumanah\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_19\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@sumanah\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e  is on the Mailman team. I'll bet she has an insider perspective on what kind of challenges you'll face when migrating from Mailman 2.1 to Mailman 3.0, or how long it will take for Mailman 3.1 to arrive.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-mention-unknown\"\u003e@brion\u003c\/span\u003e came with a challenge to \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/discourse.wmflabs.org\/t\/thoughts-on-discourse-mediawiki-integration\/113\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eintegrate core concepts of mediawiki in Discourse\u003c\/a\u003e. In the long term our goal should be to integrate Mailman mailing list features or Discourse features in the (Flow enabled) talk pages of Wikimedia project wiki websites. One of those features is to follow a discussion by mail, not only reading, but also replying and creating.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e(Going to rewrite the task description to a user story)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_234\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bru4oz4o3munyrwd2hfx\/PHID-FILE-3jr75egpeinyoxz7sxvh\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/AdHuikeshoven\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2139292\" id=\"2139292\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_232\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/AdHuikeshoven\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_73\"\u003eAdHuikeshoven\u003c\/a\u003e renamed this task from \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eUpgrade Mailman to version 3\u003c\/span\u003e to \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eHave a conversation about migrating from GNU Mailman 2.1 to GNU Mailman 3.0\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2139292\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_231\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 21 2016, 7:10 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-21 19:10:49 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_233\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/AdHuikeshoven\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_74\"\u003eAdHuikeshoven\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-3aelgsl2r64smsk\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_237\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bru4oz4o3munyrwd2hfx\/PHID-FILE-3jr75egpeinyoxz7sxvh\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/AdHuikeshoven\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2139305\" id=\"2139305\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_236\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/AdHuikeshoven\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_75\"\u003eAdHuikeshoven\u003c\/a\u003e added a subtask: \u003ca href=\"\/T130554\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_76\"\u003eT130554: Official support for upgrade from existing Mailman 2.1 lists to Mailman 3\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2139305\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_235\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 21 2016, 7:17 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-21 19:17:24 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_240\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/2k47tvkka236nmpz22pc\/PHID-FILE-h42cqpdrg4yr7egelavj\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2140144\" id=\"2140144\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_239\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_77\"\u003eAklapper\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T130554\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_78\"\u003eT130554: Official support for upgrade from existing Mailman 2.1 lists to Mailman 3\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2140144\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_238\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 22 2016, 10:07 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-03-22 10:07:09 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_247\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lvwkvap46zuq6eyritpz\/PHID-FILE-4wvwdcaaprsgvlbxyva6\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/sumanah\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2490319\" id=\"2490319\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_246\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/sumanah\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_79\"\u003esumanah\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2490319\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_245\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 24 2016, 2:39 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-07-24 02:39:39 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_243\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_244\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_80\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/sumanah\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_20\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@sumanah\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e is on the Mailman team. I'll bet she has an insider perspective on what kind of challenges you'll face when migrating from Mailman 2.1 to Mailman 3.0, or how long it will take for Mailman 3.1 to arrive.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI was volunteering on Mailman and am not right now. But \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/mail.python.org\/pipermail\/mailman-developers\/2016-July\/025780.html\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehere's a July 12th post by Mailman maintainer Barry Warsaw on the mailman developers' list\u003c\/a\u003e in which he recognizes that 3.1 really needs to be released soon. (Mailman 3.1 is the version where the maintainers advise 2.0 users to upgrade and believe the upgrade path is smooth.) I predict Mailman 3.1 will be out by the end of 2016, and my bet would be that it'll be before the end of September.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePeople who'd like to know when 3.1 is out can subscribe to the \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/mail.python.org\/mailman\/listinfo\/mailman-announce\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eMailman announcement mailing list\u003c\/a\u003e which is very low-volume.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_250\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lvwkvap46zuq6eyritpz\/PHID-FILE-4wvwdcaaprsgvlbxyva6\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/sumanah\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2490320\" id=\"2490320\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-times phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_249\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/sumanah\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_81\"\u003esumanah\u003c\/a\u003e unsubscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2490320\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_248\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJul 24 2016, 2:40 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-07-24 02:40:12 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_253\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/7uvxlxzvbqzgt3e6eskj\/PHID-FILE-xxokdlguofwedytdehnl\/profile-P9184205.JPG)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Man77\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"2787720\" id=\"2787720\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-times phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_252\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Man77\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_82\"\u003eMan77\u003c\/a\u003e unsubscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#2787720\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_251\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eNov 10 2016, 10:43 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2016-11-10 22:43:37 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_260\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p6rlqv5lsvrebeooy2ch\/PHID-FILE-bcpybgue46p6lvwty5ng\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3241366\" id=\"3241366\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_259\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_84\"\u003eMarcoAurelio\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3241366\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_258\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 7 2017, 12:12 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-05-07 12:12:46 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_256\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_257\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_83\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eHello. What's the status of this one? It'd be interesting to have our mailing lists system updated. Regards.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_264\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p6rlqv5lsvrebeooy2ch\/PHID-FILE-bcpybgue46p6lvwty5ng\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3241367\" id=\"3241367\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_262\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_263\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_85\"\u003eMarcoAurelio\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3241367\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_261\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 7 2017, 12:12 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-05-07 12:12:55 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_275\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/2k47tvkka236nmpz22pc\/PHID-FILE-h42cqpdrg4yr7egelavj\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/11\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_271\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-space-shuttle\" data-meta=\"0_272\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/2\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_273\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-bug\" data-meta=\"0_274\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3241375\" id=\"3241375\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_270\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_86\"\u003eAklapper\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3241375\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_269\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 7 2017, 12:45 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-05-07 12:45:29 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_267\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_268\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_87\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eRegarding Debian packages for GNU Mailman 3, see \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/bugs.debian.org\/cgi-bin\/bugreport.cgi?bug=799292\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/bugs.debian.org\/cgi-bin\/bugreport.cgi?bug=799292\u003c\/a\u003e for the issues.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_278\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/l35zuvzndix63qy6mepk\/PHID-FILE-av27timtzzfb5jv7kmvh\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Paladox\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3241379\" id=\"3241379\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_277\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Paladox\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_88\"\u003ePaladox\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3241379\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_276\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 7 2017, 12:50 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-05-07 12:50:36 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_281\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/fnn4s676f2zhflrwspye\/PHID-FILE-mzbk2otu7ohzzjucohwn\/profile-profile-erikvatar.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Eloquence\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3499315\" id=\"3499315\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_280\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Eloquence\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_89\"\u003eEloquence\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3499315\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_279\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 3 2017, 11:12 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-08-03 23:12:48 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_288\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xbxvqd7lop7kondp5oqc\/PHID-FILE-ju4x4tqpgywo7yvcf3u2\/profile-empty.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Nemo_bis\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3530057\" id=\"3530057\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_287\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Nemo_bis\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_91\"\u003eNemo_bis\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3530057\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_286\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 17 2017, 7:56 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-08-17 07:56:40 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_284\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_285\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_90\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eRe \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/lists.wikimedia.org\/pipermail\/wikimedia-l\/2017-August\/088350.html\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/lists.wikimedia.org\/pipermail\/wikimedia-l\/2017-August\/088350.html\u003c\/a\u003e , I think adding Mailman 3 to translatewiki.net would a reasonable first step to increase awareness and help its development. Erik, are you willing to open this discussion in the relevant venues?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eA second step could be switching some non-WMF Wikimedia mailman installations. \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/intern.wikimedia.ch\/lists\/listinfo\/\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/intern.wikimedia.ch\/lists\/listinfo\/\u003c\/a\u003e seems a better candidate than \u003ca href=\"http:\/\/mailman.wikimedia.it\/listinfo\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttp:\/\/mailman.wikimedia.it\/listinfo\u003c\/a\u003e because they seem to run on more up to date software (and they have a more diverse userbase, including some international mailing lists). Both are run by volunteers with little time though, AFAIK.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_295\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/dehmh3scjpmoumxznua7\/PHID-FILE-4esn6uidadgmq7ck5yod\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_M.png-_b38ba9-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.3.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MoritzMuehlenhoff\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3669093\" id=\"3669093\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_294\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MoritzMuehlenhoff\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_93\"\u003eMoritzMuehlenhoff\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3669093\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_293\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 9 2017, 11:46 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-09 11:46:15 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_291\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_292\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_92\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eJFTR, the first maiman 3 package has been uploaded to Debian now: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/packages.qa.debian.org\/m\/mailman3-core.html\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/packages.qa.debian.org\/m\/mailman3-core.html\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_302\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p6rlqv5lsvrebeooy2ch\/PHID-FILE-bcpybgue46p6lvwty5ng\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3669128\" id=\"3669128\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_301\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_94\"\u003eMarcoAurelio\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3669128\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_300\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 9 2017, 12:08 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-09 12:08:27 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_298\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_299\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_95\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MoritzMuehlenhoff\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_21\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@MoritzMuehlenhoff\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e Does that help or ease the suggested migration? Thanks.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_305\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/jiescibb2tfpadg6tyrc\/PHID-FILE-bw6rufgv4lqimr5crhxq\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Elitre\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3669528\" id=\"3669528\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_304\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Elitre\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_96\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Elitre\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-r6p6rdjmwwi2tlg\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3669528\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_303\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 9 2017, 2:17 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-09 14:17:03 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_312\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/dehmh3scjpmoumxznua7\/PHID-FILE-4esn6uidadgmq7ck5yod\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_M.png-_b38ba9-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.3.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MoritzMuehlenhoff\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3671635\" id=\"3671635\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_311\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MoritzMuehlenhoff\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_97\"\u003eMoritzMuehlenhoff\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3671635\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_310\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 10 2017, 11:20 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-10-10 11:20:37 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_308\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_309\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_98\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#3669128\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_22\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#3669128\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_24\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@MarcoAurelio\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MoritzMuehlenhoff\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_23\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@MoritzMuehlenhoff\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e Does that help or ease the suggested migration? Thanks.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe mailman 3 packaging in Debian isn't complete yet (missing the web interface ATM), but when it's complete that would certainly ease a migration to mailman 3.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_315\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p6rlqv5lsvrebeooy2ch\/PHID-FILE-bcpybgue46p6lvwty5ng\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3802903\" id=\"3802903\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_314\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_99\"\u003eMarcoAurelio\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T181803\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_100\"\u003eT181803: Stop storing Mailman passwords in plain text\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3802903\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_313\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eDec 1 2017, 2:13 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-12-01 14:13:53 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_318\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/2k47tvkka236nmpz22pc\/PHID-FILE-h42cqpdrg4yr7egelavj\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3802930\" id=\"3802930\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_317\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Aklapper\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_101\"\u003eAklapper\u003c\/a\u003e added a parent task: \u003ca href=\"\/T181803\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_102\"\u003eT181803: Stop storing Mailman passwords in plain text\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3802930\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_316\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eDec 1 2017, 2:25 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2017-12-01 14:25:57 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_327\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lmqso2pdiuhzvrx7fltm\/PHID-FILE-g4ayg62xazjsnsxkgiqt\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_L.png-_48a3ba-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_325\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_326\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3925248\" id=\"3925248\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_324\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_103\"\u003eLegoktm\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/herron\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_104\"\u003eherron\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3925248\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_323\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 26 2018, 9:42 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-01-26 21:42:30 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_321\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_322\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_105\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI briefly talked with \u003ca href=\"\/p\/herron\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_25\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@herron\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e about this today. I think we are still blocked on the lack of Debian packaging. Looking at \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/qa.debian.org\/developer.php?email=pkg-mailman-hackers%40lists.alioth.debian.org\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/qa.debian.org\/developer.php?email=pkg-mailman-hackers%40lists.alioth.debian.org\u003c\/a\u003e, none of the packages were included in stretch (and some aren't in testing yet), so we'd either need stretch backports or wait until the buster release.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_330\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"display: none;\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3925250\" id=\"3925250\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_329\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_106\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-lock lightgreytext\" data-meta=\"0_107\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eRestricted Application\u003c\/span\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/alaa\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_108\"\u003ealaa\u003c\/a\u003e. \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra-information\"\u003e \u00b7  \u003ca href=\"\/herald\/transcript\/2199398\/\"\u003eView Herald Transcript\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3925250\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_328\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 26 2018, 9:42 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-01-26 21:42:31 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_333\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/3uc2yc67cpe2vkc4sibj\/PHID-FILE-5czt7j26qbkmfpxtwswx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Peachey88\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3925501\" id=\"3925501\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_332\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Peachey88\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_109\"\u003ePeachey88\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3925501\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_331\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 27 2018, 6:47 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-01-27 06:47:46 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_340\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/dehmh3scjpmoumxznua7\/PHID-FILE-4esn6uidadgmq7ck5yod\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_M.png-_b38ba9-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.3.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MoritzMuehlenhoff\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3940724\" id=\"3940724\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_339\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MoritzMuehlenhoff\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_110\"\u003eMoritzMuehlenhoff\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3940724\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_338\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 2 2018, 11:52 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-02-02 11:52:03 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_336\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_337\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_111\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003emailman3-core, mailman3-hyperkitty, postorius and mailmanclient have been accepted into stretch-backports today.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_347\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p6rlqv5lsvrebeooy2ch\/PHID-FILE-bcpybgue46p6lvwty5ng\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3940731\" id=\"3940731\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_346\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_112\"\u003eMarcoAurelio\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3940731\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_345\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 2 2018, 11:59 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-02-02 11:59:12 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_343\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_344\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_113\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eDoes that mean we can start considering our migration?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_354\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/dehmh3scjpmoumxznua7\/PHID-FILE-4esn6uidadgmq7ck5yod\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_M.png-_b38ba9-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.3.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MoritzMuehlenhoff\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3940735\" id=\"3940735\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_353\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MoritzMuehlenhoff\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_114\"\u003eMoritzMuehlenhoff\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3940735\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_352\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 2 2018, 12:05 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-02-02 12:05:17 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_350\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_351\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_115\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThat's dependent on goal planning \/ road map considerations, I only meant to point out the availability in backports since it was mentioned earlier on this task.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_361\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/jiescibb2tfpadg6tyrc\/PHID-FILE-bw6rufgv4lqimr5crhxq\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Elitre\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3940741\" id=\"3940741\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_360\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Elitre\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_116\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Elitre\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3940741\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_359\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 2 2018, 12:10 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-02-02 12:10:51 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_357\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_358\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_117\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#3940724\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_26\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#3940724\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/MoritzMuehlenhoff\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_27\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@MoritzMuehlenhoff\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003emailman3-core, mailman3-hyperkitty, postorius and mailmanclient have been accepted into stretch-backports today.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_28\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Legoktm\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e \u003ca href=\"\/p\/herron\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_29\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@herron\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e where does this put us now then? Thanks.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_370\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lmqso2pdiuhzvrx7fltm\/PHID-FILE-g4ayg62xazjsnsxkgiqt\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_L.png-_48a3ba-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_368\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_369\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3941723\" id=\"3941723\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_367\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_118\"\u003eLegoktm\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3941723\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_366\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 2 2018, 7:19 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-02-02 19:19:45 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_364\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_365\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_119\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI think we need to lobby\/convince\/remind \u003ca href=\"\/p\/faidon\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_30\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@faidon\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e and other roadmap deciders to allocate resources for this :)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_374\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ts2owvmiua6oh3t2p7zl\/PHID-FILE-ynvez4sgrr2sgxhkwif7\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Pcoombe\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"3968103\" id=\"3968103\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_372\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_373\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pcoombe\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_120\"\u003ePcoombe\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#3968103\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_371\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 13 2018, 4:48 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-02-13 16:48:36 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell-removed phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-grey\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_377\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p6rlqv5lsvrebeooy2ch\/PHID-FILE-bcpybgue46p6lvwty5ng\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"4026618\" id=\"4026618\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-grey\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trash phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_376\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_121\"\u003eMarcoAurelio\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#4026618\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_375\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 6 2018, 12:04 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-03-06 12:04:22 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"comment-deleted\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_122\"\u003eThis comment was removed by \u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eMarcoAurelio\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_381\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/gmb3bohtvy22zzvlaje7\/PHID-FILE-zcwqxhkprdlj5oadwhav\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Reedy\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"4200959\" id=\"4200959\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_379\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Reedy\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_123\"\u003eReedy\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-ymskkruzmu5mbhn\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#4200959\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_378\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 11 2018, 6:24 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-05-11 18:24:56 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-times phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_380\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Reedy\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_124\"\u003eReedy\u003c\/a\u003e removed subscribers: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/wikibugs-l-list\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_125\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e wikibugs-l-list\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/JohnLewis\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_126\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e JohnLewis\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_388\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p6rlqv5lsvrebeooy2ch\/PHID-FILE-bcpybgue46p6lvwty5ng\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"4201887\" id=\"4201887\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_387\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_127\"\u003eMarcoAurelio\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#4201887\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_386\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 11 2018, 11:32 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-05-11 23:32:50 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_384\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_385\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_128\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#3941723\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_31\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#3941723\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_33\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Legoktm\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI think we need to lobby\/convince\/remind \u003ca href=\"\/p\/faidon\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_32\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@faidon\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e and other roadmap deciders to allocate resources for this :)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHello \u003ca href=\"\/p\/faidon\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_34\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@faidon\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e. Do you think we can move on this? Thanks.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_391\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hagejusadb45atmqzcwn\/PHID-FILE-7afdbjm6t3rpvsbw5uco\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"4249893\" id=\"4249893\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_390\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-partial phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_129\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Quiddity\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#4249893\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_389\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 1 2018, 9:34 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-06-01 21:34:37 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_398\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p6rlqv5lsvrebeooy2ch\/PHID-FILE-bcpybgue46p6lvwty5ng\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"4488149\" id=\"4488149\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_397\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_130\"\u003eMarcoAurelio\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#4488149\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_396\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 8 2018, 12:39 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-08-08 12:39:31 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_394\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_395\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_131\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eHi. Any status updates here? Thanks.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_405\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xbxvqd7lop7kondp5oqc\/PHID-FILE-ju4x4tqpgywo7yvcf3u2\/profile-empty.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Nemo_bis\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"4488603\" id=\"4488603\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_404\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Nemo_bis\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_132\"\u003eNemo_bis\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#4488603\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_403\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 8 2018, 2:47 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-08-08 14:47:40 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_401\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_402\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_133\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#4488149\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_35\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#4488149\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_37\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@MarcoAurelio\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eHi. Any status updates here? Thanks.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf you are in a hurry to switch to mailman 3, maybe you could talk with the development team about increasing its translations as I suggested?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#3530056\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_36\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#3530056\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Nemo_bis\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_38\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Nemo_bis\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eRe \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/lists.wikimedia.org\/pipermail\/wikimedia-l\/2017-August\/088350.html\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/lists.wikimedia.org\/pipermail\/wikimedia-l\/2017-August\/088350.html\u003c\/a\u003e , I think adding Mailman 3 to translatewiki.net would a reasonable first step to increase awareness and help its development. Erik, are you willing to open this discussion in the relevant venues?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_412\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p6rlqv5lsvrebeooy2ch\/PHID-FILE-bcpybgue46p6lvwty5ng\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"4489280\" id=\"4489280\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_411\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_134\"\u003eMarcoAurelio\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#4489280\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_410\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 8 2018, 6:04 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-08-08 18:04:15 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_408\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_409\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_135\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI am not in any hurry. I am just requesting an status update.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_415\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/6n6ztqf7kwlq2m3tns3r\/PHID-FILE-sjs4kdocejuiiypnxqow\/profile-lake.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/chasemp\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"4725630\" id=\"4725630\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_414\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/chasemp\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_136\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e chasemp\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#4725630\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_413\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eNov 6 2018, 6:37 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-11-06 18:37:18 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_418\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/res\/phabricator\/e132bb6a\/rsrc\/image\/avatar.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Meno25\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"4769203\" id=\"4769203\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-times phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_417\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Meno25\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_137\"\u003eMeno25\u003c\/a\u003e unsubscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#4769203\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_416\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eNov 23 2018, 7:48 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2018-11-23 07:48:40 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_421\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5mjzozavsk6qiwc644qa\/PHID-FILE-5bhe47kh2avsctliqtie\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RuyP\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"4889975\" id=\"4889975\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_420\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RuyP\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_138\"\u003eRuyP\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#4889975\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_419\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 17 2019, 7:45 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-01-17 19:45:02 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_424\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/oawpe4dl3crt6nqm4kxu\/PHID-FILE-o2ymhkw7mg7faiicanrc\/profile-New_Image2.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Stryn\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"4890001\" id=\"4890001\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_423\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Stryn\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_139\"\u003eStryn\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#4890001\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_422\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 17 2019, 7:56 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-01-17 19:56:19 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_427\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/2rlpinqyz4xsjmfbcpuo\/PHID-FILE-c2cblouyyjoo7fapx3ek\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Phabricator_maintenance\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"4911335\" id=\"4911335\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_426\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Phabricator_maintenance\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_140\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Phabricator_maintenance\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/1025\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_141\"\u003eBacklog\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/1025\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_142\"\u003eAcknowledged\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/sre\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_143\"\u003eSRE\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#4911335\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_425\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 26 2019, 7:48 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-01-26 19:48:58 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_431\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xgt37sxs2txbgla5ntvc\/PHID-FILE-5fg65cnktwsan5iwffam\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"4936775\" id=\"4936775\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_429\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_430\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_144\"\u003eLadsgroup\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#4936775\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_428\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 7 2019, 11:31 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-02-07 23:31:58 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_434\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ied4uhepf36ypa3nofxt\/PHID-FILE-3wexu5vn7ik2tafjyzdk\/profile-profile-baselogo135.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Base\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5006529\" id=\"5006529\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_433\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Base\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_145\"\u003eBase\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5006529\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_432\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 6 2019, 8:22 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-03-06 20:22:06 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_438\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/imxpnfffabpnqvrgwagt\/PHID-FILE-wjri4okiamjvmn2r6pgz\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Sjoerddebruin\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5006534\" id=\"5006534\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_436\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_437\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Sjoerddebruin\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_146\"\u003eSjoerddebruin\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5006534\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_435\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 6 2019, 8:32 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-03-06 20:32:07 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_441\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/7siheqhibi6d4q7osrvl\/PHID-FILE-pcgvtamv4ttpgydoicjd\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_M.png-_ac7e8b-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.4.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Masti\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5006548\" id=\"5006548\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_440\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Masti\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_147\"\u003eMasti\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5006548\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_439\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 6 2019, 8:40 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-03-06 20:40:37 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_448\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p6rlqv5lsvrebeooy2ch\/PHID-FILE-bcpybgue46p6lvwty5ng\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5022837\" id=\"5022837\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_447\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_148\"\u003eMarcoAurelio\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5022837\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_446\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 13 2019, 9:56 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-03-13 21:56:42 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_444\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_445\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_149\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_39\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Legoktm\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e \u003ca href=\"\/p\/herron\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_40\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@herron\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e Could we have an update on this one, please? Thanks.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_457\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/gmb3bohtvy22zzvlaje7\/PHID-FILE-zcwqxhkprdlj5oadwhav\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Reedy\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/6\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_455\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rebel\" data-meta=\"0_456\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5022886\" id=\"5022886\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_454\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Reedy\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_150\"\u003eReedy\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5022886\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_453\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 13 2019, 10:13 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-03-13 22:13:02 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_451\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_452\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_151\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003ePresumably it\u2019s the usual no activity == no update...\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_464\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/woaup5gfhgyt3xpvwi4f\/PHID-FILE-xcnwlpurjz3rsuiv56td\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5022889\" id=\"5022889\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_463\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_152\"\u003eTgr\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_153\"\u003eQgil\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5022889\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_462\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 13 2019, 10:14 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-03-13 22:14:39 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_460\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_461\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_154\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThere has been a lot of activity on Discourse, OTOH. \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_41\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Qgil\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e might be able to say more on that.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_471\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p6rlqv5lsvrebeooy2ch\/PHID-FILE-bcpybgue46p6lvwty5ng\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5022898\" id=\"5022898\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_470\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_155\"\u003eMarcoAurelio\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5022898\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_469\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 13 2019, 10:21 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-03-13 22:21:40 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_467\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_468\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_156\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Reedy\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_44\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Reedy\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e As far as I could see, \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#3241375\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_42\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#3241375\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e is resolved, and \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#3940724\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_43\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#3940724\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e is as well. GNU seems happy with Postorius and HyperKitty as well (\u003ca href=\"http:\/\/list.org\/features.html\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttp:\/\/list.org\/features.html\u003c\/a\u003e). Therefore, is there any blockers that prevent this to go forward?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_480\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/gmb3bohtvy22zzvlaje7\/PHID-FILE-zcwqxhkprdlj5oadwhav\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Reedy\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/6\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_478\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rebel\" data-meta=\"0_479\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5022944\" id=\"5022944\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_477\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Reedy\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_157\"\u003eReedy\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5022944\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_476\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 13 2019, 11:02 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-03-13 23:02:30 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_474\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_475\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_158\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#5022898\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_47\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#5022898\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_49\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@MarcoAurelio\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Reedy\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_48\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Reedy\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e As far as I could see, \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#3241375\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_45\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#3241375\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e is resolved, and \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#3940724\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_46\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#3940724\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e is as well. GNU seems happy with Postorius and HyperKitty as well (\u003ca href=\"http:\/\/list.org\/features.html\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttp:\/\/list.org\/features.html\u003c\/a\u003e). Therefore, is there any blockers that prevent this to go forward?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePotentially whatever host mailman is running on may need an os upgrade, or a reinstall... which may potentially mean new hardware depending on warranty status\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThen someone to do test migrations, before upgrading the live versions. I don\u2019t know if SRE has this in their goals\/timelines\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_487\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/4e6cj54i37wpuhodl37z\/PHID-FILE-sh43reqprk5j4avdwetw\/profile-profile-0965951.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5023579\" id=\"5023579\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_486\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_159\"\u003eQgil\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5023579\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_485\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 14 2019, 10:40 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-03-14 10:40:12 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_483\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_484\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_160\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#5022889\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_50\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#5022889\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tgr\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_52\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Tgr\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThere has been a lot of activity on Discourse, OTOH. \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_51\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Qgil\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e might be able to say more on that.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eA few weeks ago I set up two scenarios to test:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org\/t\/mirroring-mediawiki-l-wikitech-l-and-other-tech-mailing-lists\/999\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eMirroring Mailman mailing lists in Discourse\u003c\/a\u003e (example: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org\/c\/mailing-list-mirrors\/mediawiki-l\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eMediaWiki-l\u003c\/a\u003e).\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org\/t\/lets-try-to-emulate-a-mailing-list\/1003\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eMailing list simulation in Discourse\u003c\/a\u003e (providing all mailing list features to email users while keeping all forum features for web users).\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo far so good, although more testing and feedback is definitely welcome. There seem to be some corner cases \/ bugs related to identifying signatures and attachments, but the Discourse team has been very responsive.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI am trying to build a case around Discourse that includes mailing lists \/ email users, but as you know or may imagine there are many pieces involved. I believe Discourse may provide a better end result for email and web users, integrating forum and mailing lists under a common umbrella (same usernames, common search...).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis is just a quick update. I need a bit more time to prepare a decent proposal for discussion.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_490\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p6rlqv5lsvrebeooy2ch\/PHID-FILE-bcpybgue46p6lvwty5ng\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5232908\" id=\"5232908\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_489\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_161\"\u003eMarcoAurelio\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T166944\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_162\"\u003eT166944: Upgrade to mailman 2.1.22+\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5232908\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_488\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 4 2019, 10:42 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-06-04 10:42:53 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_497\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/4e6cj54i37wpuhodl37z\/PHID-FILE-sh43reqprk5j4avdwetw\/profile-profile-0965951.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5289408\" id=\"5289408\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_496\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_163\"\u003eQgil\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5289408\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_495\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 27 2019, 3:37 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-06-27 15:37:18 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_493\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_494\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_164\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSorry, it took more time than I expected when I posted the comment above, but here it is: \u003ca href=\"\/T226727\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_53\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT226727: Integrate mailing lists in Wikimedia Space\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e & \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/discuss-space.wmflabs.org\/t\/integrating-mailing-lists-to-wikimedia-space\/136\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/discuss-space.wmflabs.org\/t\/integrating-mailing-lists-to-wikimedia-space\/136\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHow would you prefer to have this conversation about migrating from GNU Mailman 2.1 to... ?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI am well aware that a plan for a potential migration from Mailman to Discourse would be complex and require many details defined that today are vague or unknown. I just want to say that we (the team working on Wikimedia Space) are ready to take part in this conversation and assume our share in the work required to proceed with this migration.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_504\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p6rlqv5lsvrebeooy2ch\/PHID-FILE-bcpybgue46p6lvwty5ng\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5290522\" id=\"5290522\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_503\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_165\"\u003eMarcoAurelio\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5290522\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_502\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 27 2019, 8:38 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-06-27 20:38:55 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_500\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_501\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_166\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_55\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Qgil\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e Thanks for your comment. As a user of some mailing lists, I am still interesting in upgrading to Mailman 3+. At \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#5022944\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_54\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#5022944\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e we have some potential issues. I guess that, to be totally sure, we could create a subtask and check what really needs to be done to move this forward?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_511\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/4e6cj54i37wpuhodl37z\/PHID-FILE-sh43reqprk5j4avdwetw\/profile-profile-0965951.jpg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5291064\" id=\"5291064\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_510\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Qgil\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_167\"\u003eQgil\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5291064\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_509\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 27 2019, 11:31 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-06-27 23:31:31 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_507\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_508\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_168\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eTo be clear, the proposal is that users of a Mailing mailing list about X could keep using the same email features subscribing in mailing list mode to a Discourse category about X (same topic, same email functionality). The hypothesis is that Discourse can roughly cover the functionality that Mailman 3+ provides.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_520\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/tz7lapf6xjud6l4n3hnu\/PHID-FILE-mc3f2ds2bpvzfeu4ogha\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/bd808\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/6\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_518\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rebel\" data-meta=\"0_519\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5650190\" id=\"5650190\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_517\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/bd808\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_170\"\u003ebd808\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5650190\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_516\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eNov 9 2019, 9:53 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-11-09 21:53:09 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_514\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_515\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_169\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#3925248\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_56\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#3925248\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_58\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Legoktm\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI briefly talked with \u003ca href=\"\/p\/herron\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_57\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@herron\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e about this today. I think we are still blocked on the lack of Debian packaging. Looking at \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/qa.debian.org\/developer.php?email=pkg-mailman-hackers%40lists.alioth.debian.org\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/qa.debian.org\/developer.php?email=pkg-mailman-hackers%40lists.alioth.debian.org\u003c\/a\u003e, none of the packages were included in stretch (and some aren't in testing yet), so we'd either need stretch backports or wait until the buster release.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePackaging for Mailman 3.1 is now in Buster (and Stretch backports): \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/packages.debian.org\/buster\/mailman3\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/packages.debian.org\/buster\/mailman3\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI think that current ganetti vm that is hosting lists.wikimedia.org is running Debian Jessie{{cn}}. If it is, our SRE folks will likely want to replace that vm with one using Buster soon. It would be more work, but appreciated by many if that rebuild included the upgrade from mailman2 to mailman3.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_523\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ys7wpsxj52jcyn74x2dy\/PHID-FILE-ikakwe3hay62sflyvish\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_A.png-_694e79-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Amorymeltzer\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5663104\" id=\"5663104\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_522\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Amorymeltzer\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_171\"\u003eAmorymeltzer\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5663104\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_521\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eNov 14 2019, 10:18 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2019-11-14 10:18:21 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_527\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/6n6ztqf7kwlq2m3tns3r\/PHID-FILE-sjs4kdocejuiiypnxqow\/profile-lake.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/chasemp\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5772205\" id=\"5772205\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_525\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/chasemp\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_172\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e chasemp\u003c\/a\u003e added a project: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/security-team\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_173\"\u003eSecurity-Team\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5772205\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_524\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 2 2020, 8:58 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-01-02 20:58:24 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_526\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/chasemp\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_174\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e chasemp\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/1179\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_175\"\u003eIncoming\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/1179\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_176\"\u003eWatching\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/security-team\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_177\"\u003eSecurity-Team\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_530\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p6rlqv5lsvrebeooy2ch\/PHID-FILE-bcpybgue46p6lvwty5ng\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5795027\" id=\"5795027\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_529\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_178\"\u003eMarcoAurelio\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T242520\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_179\"\u003eT242520: Allow Cloud mailing list to be indexed \u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5795027\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_528\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 11 2020, 9:51 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-01-11 21:51:11 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_533\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hnutacip37vl6pt33a6i\/PHID-FILE-lvpnov3ikjcq3umd6a2t\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_R.png-_863d67-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.4.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/RoySmith\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"5795035\" id=\"5795035\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_532\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/RoySmith\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_180\"\u003eRoySmith\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#5795035\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_531\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 11 2020, 10:01 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-01-11 22:01:46 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_537\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/gmb3bohtvy22zzvlaje7\/PHID-FILE-zcwqxhkprdlj5oadwhav\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Reedy\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6053698\" id=\"6053698\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_535\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Reedy\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_181\"\u003eReedy\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-tjg5qknouokxp4j\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6053698\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_534\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 14 2020, 12:23 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-04-14 00:23:11 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-times phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_536\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Reedy\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_182\"\u003eReedy\u003c\/a\u003e removed subscribers: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/RobLa-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_183\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e RobLa-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Tbayer\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_184\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Tbayer\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_185\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e bzimport\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Philippe-WMF\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_186\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Philippe-WMF\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_544\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/jo674bbqnw6mbz2qrulb\/PHID-FILE-kixxwfgiokzatzyk5rra\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Stashbot\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6199103\" id=\"6199103\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_543\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Stashbot\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_187\"\u003eStashbot\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6199103\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_542\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 6 2020, 3:19 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-06-06 15:19:56 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_540\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_541\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_188\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cspan class=\"remarkup-nav-sequence\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/sal.toolforge.org\/log\/ofI3inIBv7KcG9M-iJyG\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-shade phui-tag-grey phui-tag-shade phui-tag-icon-view \" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core \"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-file\" data-meta=\"0_2\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eMentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-releng)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e [2020-06-06T15:19:54Z] <Amir1> created deployment-mailman01 in beta cluster for testing upgrade to mailmain 3.1 (\u003ca href=\"\/T52864\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_59\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"\/T130554\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_60\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT130554\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-green\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_556\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xgt37sxs2txbgla5ntvc\/PHID-FILE-5fg65cnktwsan5iwffam\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_552\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_553\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/15\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_554\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-eye\" data-meta=\"0_555\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6199229\" id=\"6199229\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-green\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-exclamation-circle phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_550\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_189\"\u003eLadsgroup\u003c\/a\u003e changed the task status from \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eStalled\u003c\/span\u003e to \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eOpen\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6199229\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_549\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 6 2020, 4:39 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-06-06 16:39:36 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_551\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_191\"\u003eLadsgroup\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_547\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_548\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_190\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe official support for upgrading from mailman2 to mailman3 is there. You can see it in \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/docs.mailman3.org\/en\/latest\/migration.html\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/docs.mailman3.org\/en\/latest\/migration.html\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe part I like about the upgrade is that it can be done mailing list by mailing list. It even has a configuration migration script. \u003cbr \/\u003e\nSome things to consider here:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eURLs to archived messages will break, unless you take extra steps to keep them around. Upgrade mechanism makes sure to import all your archived messages in the new system, but, all the URLs to the new messages are going to be different.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis can be slightly problematic but still there's a way to fix it (just keep the archives but make them read-only)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis is also an example mailman3 installation you can see to get how it feels: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/lists.mailman3.org\/mailman3\/lists\/mailman-users.mailman3.org\/\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/lists.mailman3.org\/mailman3\/lists\/mailman-users.mailman3.org\/\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo my suggestion on upgrade path:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCreate a new mailman VM\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ePuppetize and install mailman3 there: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/docs.mailman3.org\/en\/latest\/install\/distro.html#debian-install\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/docs.mailman3.org\/en\/latest\/install\/distro.html#debian-install\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eHook it into our MTA (Exim) with a new address like lists-next.wikimedia.org: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/mailman.readthedocs.io\/en\/latest\/src\/mailman\/docs\/mta.html\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/mailman.readthedocs.io\/en\/latest\/src\/mailman\/docs\/mta.html\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eStart upgrading several mailing lists to the new schema\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCheck if everything is fine\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eMigrate the rest\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eSwap URLs of lists-next.wikimedia.org to lists.wikimedia.org and lists.wikimedia.org to lists-old.wikimedia.org (make sure archive URLs don't break)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eDrop the old VM\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCelebrate.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm trying to install it on beta cluster, right now I don't know how to hook it into beta cluster's MTA. I post a link once it's ready.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf anyone from SRE is willing to help with this, I'd be more than happy to help this move forward. This is the only place in production where the password is stored as plain text.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_560\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ett5kkabuhzewfru2niv\/PHID-FILE-hx56cseew75gb3emycmm\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Dalba\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6199317\" id=\"6199317\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_558\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_559\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Dalba\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_192\"\u003eDalba\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6199317\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_557\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 6 2020, 5:33 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-06-06 17:33:22 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_565\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lrlmbhn7iz3irjh77k6r\/PHID-FILE-lrtr2fz3nviqyjkb63fw\/alphanumeric_lato-white_K.png-_527a5f-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.3.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/kolbert\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6199368\" id=\"6199368\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_562\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-emoji-2 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_563\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/kolbert\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_193\"\u003ekolbert\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6199368\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_561\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 6 2020, 6:24 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-06-06 18:24:01 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_564\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/kolbert\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_194\"\u003ekolbert\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_568\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xgt37sxs2txbgla5ntvc\/PHID-FILE-5fg65cnktwsan5iwffam\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6199489\" id=\"6199489\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-shield phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_567\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_195\"\u003eLadsgroup\u003c\/a\u003e closed subtask \u003ca href=\"\/T130554\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\"\u003eT130554: Official support for upgrade from existing Mailman 2.1 lists to Mailman 3\u003c\/a\u003e as \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eResolved\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6199489\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_566\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 6 2020, 8:47 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-06-06 20:47:49 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_579\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xgt37sxs2txbgla5ntvc\/PHID-FILE-5fg65cnktwsan5iwffam\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_575\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_576\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/15\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_577\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-eye\" data-meta=\"0_578\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6199682\" id=\"6199682\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_574\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_196\"\u003eLadsgroup\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6199682\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_573\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 7 2020, 1:42 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-06-07 01:42:55 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_571\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_572\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_197\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI started a simple one that half works: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/lists-beta.wmflabs.org\/\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/lists-beta.wmflabs.org\/\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe sending part of MTA integration works out of the box, you will receive an email to confirm your email address but the receive part doesn't work in beta cluster yet. I haven't managed to get the DNS record for it working because horizon just gives me an error every time I try to set an MX record and associate it with 185.15.56.7 (even tried with lists.beta.wmflabs.org and still didn't work).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_586\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/jredbx6xkxr7327lqcoy\/PHID-FILE-gmtras7jc2f46newjfyc\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_P.png-_5c8596-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.7.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Platonides\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6199684\" id=\"6199684\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_585\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Platonides\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_199\"\u003ePlatonides\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6199684\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_584\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 7 2020, 1:57 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-06-07 01:57:10 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_582\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_583\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_198\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eMX records cannot have IP addresses. They must be associated to a hostname (plus a priority)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOr alternatively, just giving an A record, it should work through that legacy fallback. So a message to test-l@instance-deployment-mailman01.deployment-prep.wmflabs.org should arrive to the right box.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_593\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/jredbx6xkxr7327lqcoy\/PHID-FILE-gmtras7jc2f46newjfyc\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_P.png-_5c8596-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.7.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Platonides\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6199685\" id=\"6199685\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_592\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Platonides\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_200\"\u003ePlatonides\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6199685\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_591\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 7 2020, 1:59 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-06-07 01:59:55 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_589\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_590\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_201\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eNote: The receiving Exim doesn't seem to be configured to accept list mail:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003eRCPT TO:<test-l@lists-beta.wmflabs.org>\n550 Administrative prohibition\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_604\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xgt37sxs2txbgla5ntvc\/PHID-FILE-5fg65cnktwsan5iwffam\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_600\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_601\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/15\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_602\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-eye\" data-meta=\"0_603\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6199691\" id=\"6199691\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_599\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_202\"\u003eLadsgroup\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6199691\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_598\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 7 2020, 2:16 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-06-07 02:16:59 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_596\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_597\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_203\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#6199684\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_61\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#6199684\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Platonides\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_62\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Platonides\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eMX records cannot have IP addresses. They must be associated to a hostname (plus a priority)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOr alternatively, just giving an A record, it should work through that legacy fallback. So a message to test-l@instance-deployment-mailman01.deployment-prep.wmflabs.org should arrive to the right box.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThanks. I got it to some degree work:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003eamsa@amsa-Latitude-7480:~$ dig lists.beta.wmflabs.org\n\n; <<>> DiG 9.11.5-P4-5.1ubuntu2.1-Ubuntu <<>> lists.beta.wmflabs.org\n;; global options: +cmd\n;; Got answer:\n;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 14976\n;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1\n\n;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:\n; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 65494\n;; QUESTION SECTION:\n;lists.beta.wmflabs.org.\t\tIN\tA\n\n;; ANSWER SECTION:\nlists.beta.wmflabs.org.\t2876\tIN\tA\t185.15.56.7\n\n;; Query time: 0 msec\n;; SERVER: 127.0.0.53#53(127.0.0.53)\n;; WHEN: Sun Jun 07 04:15:11 CEST 2020\n;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 67\n\namsa@amsa-Latitude-7480:~$ telnet lists.beta.wmflabs.org 25\nTrying 185.15.56.7...\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI don't know why all of incoming traffic just go to blackhole (also on port 80 which it should have worked as lists-beta.wmflabs.org works)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_614\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p2jvmcdsbef3436hkcf6\/PHID-FILE-b6vmtimun4dtm56lypjx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krenair\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-blue \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/3\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_612\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-star\" data-meta=\"0_613\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6199701\" id=\"6199701\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_611\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krenair\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_204\"\u003eKrenair\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6199701\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_610\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 7 2020, 2:39 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-06-07 02:39:38 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_608\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_609\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_205\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI went to have a look but both security groups and iptables on the box looked fine and exim was listening on that port, then realised it works for me anyway, I can connect to it:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003ealex@alex-laptop:~$ telnet lists.beta.wmflabs.org 25\nTrying 185.15.56.7...\nConnected to lists.beta.wmflabs.org.\nEscape character is '^]'.\n220 deployment-mailman01.deployment-prep.eqiad.wmflabs ESMTP Exim 4.92 Sun, 07 Jun 2020 02:38:38 +0000\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eUnless that's been fixed in the past 25 minutes, maybe your ISP is blocking you from connecting out to port 25?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_621\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/p6rlqv5lsvrebeooy2ch\/PHID-FILE-bcpybgue46p6lvwty5ng\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6199837\" id=\"6199837\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_620\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_206\"\u003eMarcoAurelio\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6199837\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_619\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 7 2020, 10:26 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-06-07 10:26:37 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_617\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_618\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_207\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe interface looks awesome already. I went on and tried to subscribe to test-l but that didn't work. There was no confirmation URL and had to be done by email so I'm not sure this was prevented by T194032.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_632\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xgt37sxs2txbgla5ntvc\/PHID-FILE-5fg65cnktwsan5iwffam\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_628\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_629\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/15\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_630\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-eye\" data-meta=\"0_631\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6200011\" id=\"6200011\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_627\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_208\"\u003eLadsgroup\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6200011\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_626\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 7 2020, 2:43 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-06-07 14:43:18 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_624\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_625\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_209\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#6199837\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_64\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#6199837\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/MarcoAurelio\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_65\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@MarcoAurelio\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe interface looks awesome already. I went on and tried to subscribe to test-l but that didn't work. There was no confirmation URL and had to be done by email so I'm not sure this was prevented by T194032.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI can see in the logs that it went to mx-out, Can you check your spam folder?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAs the list owner I can see it requires confirmation for joining a mailing list:\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/aumkeqkslomodqkiwdnk\/PHID-FILE-juxdhiwtrzohougk4wxl\/image.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_63\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5zc5wvtjuoizua632bsu\/PHID-FILE-t6ypum6vcqhrtaumsdh7\/preview-image.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"93.120689655172\" alt=\"image.png (491\u00d71 px, 75 KB)\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e(Maybe it immediately accepts users whose their email is confirmed?)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI still can't make LMTP to work incoming emails :(((\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_639\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/bru4oz4o3munyrwd2hfx\/PHID-FILE-3jr75egpeinyoxz7sxvh\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/AdHuikeshoven\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6200032\" id=\"6200032\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_638\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/AdHuikeshoven\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_210\"\u003eAdHuikeshoven\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6200032\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_637\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 7 2020, 3:16 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-06-07 15:16:59 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_635\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_636\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_211\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIt doesn't automatically accept; it requires confirmation by email. However, the confirmation gets bounced with "550 Administrative prohibition".  So you need to get incoming mail working.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_642\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/32ma7fpuzxevmzjow4hj\/PHID-FILE-ejkcs7pcsa3shp324bda\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/taavi\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6200033\" id=\"6200033\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_641\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/taavi\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_212\"\u003etaavi\u003c\/a\u003e subscribed.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6200033\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_640\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 7 2020, 3:23 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-06-07 15:23:30 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_646\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/q4xtskw4ul5dvrupkmqs\/PHID-FILE-ezxrezgeehrb4vjobxgz\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6200089\" id=\"6200089\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_644\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-medal-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_645\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Krinkle\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_213\"\u003eKrinkle\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6200089\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_643\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 7 2020, 5:11 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-06-07 17:11:12 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_657\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xgt37sxs2txbgla5ntvc\/PHID-FILE-5fg65cnktwsan5iwffam\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_653\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_654\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-indigo \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/15\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_655\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-eye\" data-meta=\"0_656\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6200109\" id=\"6200109\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_652\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ladsgroup\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_214\"\u003eLadsgroup\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#6200109\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_651\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 7 2020, 5:40 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2020-06-07 17:40:28 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_649\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_650\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_215\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T52864#6200032\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_66\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT52864#6200032\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/AdHuikeshoven\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_67\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@AdHuikeshoven\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIt doesn't automatically accept; it requires confirmation by email. However, the confirmation gets bounced with "550 Administrative prohibition".  So you need to get incoming mail working.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOkay after a couple of hours of wrestling. I reworked the ACL rules so it accepts them. It now responds with another error. Probably can't route the emails to mailman. I will pick it later (also it should be in another ticket, I should stop spamming 60 people)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_661\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5tdo3ybksmly7uox5w3w\/PHID-FILE-k6hgfcsgdizexxemgbkc\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/sbassett\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"6203870\" id=\"6203870\" 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