for (;;);{"error":null,"payload":{"timeline":"\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-yellow\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_113\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ovytmbleapqqbp2q34as\/PHID-FILE-ukx4a3vvpumxtlt3rof2\/profile-Screen_Shot_2014-11-24_at_10.24.10_AM.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539467\" id=\"539467\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-yellow\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-arrow-up phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_109\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_0\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e bzimport\u003c\/a\u003e raised the priority of this task from \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e to \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eMedium\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539467\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_108\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eNov 22 2014, 1:44 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-11-22 01:44:28 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_110\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_2\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e bzimport\u003c\/a\u003e added a project: \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/thanks\/\" class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_3\"\u003eThanks\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_111\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_4\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e bzimport\u003c\/a\u003e set Reference to bz49087.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_112\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_5\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e bzimport\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003cspan class=\"phui-handle\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_6\"\u003eUnknown Object (MLST)\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_116\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5jthoz7jsgkdv2urcn4p\/PHID-FILE-625muwnyjyqrkzxbtizx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539483\" id=\"539483\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_115\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_7\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e MZMcBride\u003c\/a\u003e created this task.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539483\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_114\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 3 2013, 4:59 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-03 16:59:00 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_123\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/jg4y3bjmnicnl6ph77ga\/PHID-FILE-p5j2xtg5wczrhfizkz3v\/profile-sailor.jpeg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/kaldari\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539495\" id=\"539495\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_122\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/kaldari\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_8\"\u003ekaldari\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539495\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_121\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 3 2013, 5:06 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-03 17:06:23 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_119\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_120\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_9\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe Log entry was designed specifically to not include the edit. That allows the substance of the thanks to remain private while still providing a public record of the action in the event of someone using it for spamming.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_130\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5jthoz7jsgkdv2urcn4p\/PHID-FILE-625muwnyjyqrkzxbtizx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539510\" id=\"539510\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_129\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_10\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e MZMcBride\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539510\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_128\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 3 2013, 5:12 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-03 17:12:26 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_126\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_127\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_11\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eYeah, I was just poking at this.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/gerrit.wikimedia.org\/r\/gitweb?p=mediawiki\/extensions\/Thanks.git;a=blob;f=ApiThank.php;h=23f72b77df74cd5f4369ed1b4ec03e31902b052c;hb=HEAD#l65\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/gerrit.wikimedia.org\/r\/gitweb?p=mediawiki\/extensions\/Thanks.git;a=blob;f=ApiThank.php;h=23f72b77df74cd5f4369ed1b4ec03e31902b052c;hb=HEAD#l65\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003chr class=\"remarkup-hr\" \/\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\/\/ Log it if we're supposed to log it\u003cbr \/\u003e\nif ( $wgThanksLogging ) {\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\t$logEntry = new ManualLogEntry( 'thanks', 'thank' );\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\t$logEntry->setPerformer( $agent );\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\t$target = User::newFromId( $recipient )->getUserPage();\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\t$logEntry->setTarget( $target );\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\t$logid = $logEntry->insert();\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003ch3 class=\"remarkup-header\"\u003e}\u003c\/h3\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThat appears to be the relevant code to update the logging table.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/gerrit.wikimedia.org\/r\/gitweb?p=mediawiki\/extensions\/Thanks.git;a=blob;f=ThanksLogFormatter.php;h=b55c2b2da0cb77c8a3acc01adc7dba111f536ab6;hb=HEAD\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/gerrit.wikimedia.org\/r\/gitweb?p=mediawiki\/extensions\/Thanks.git;a=blob;f=ThanksLogFormatter.php;h=b55c2b2da0cb77c8a3acc01adc7dba111f536ab6;hb=HEAD\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003chr class=\"remarkup-hr\" \/\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e<?php\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\/**\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThis class formats log entries for thanks *\/\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eclass ThanksLogFormatter extends LogFormatter {\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\tprotected function getMessageParameters() {\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e\t\t$params = parent::getMessageParameters();\n\t\t\/\/ Convert target from a pageLink to a userLink since the target is\n\t\t\/\/ actually a user, not a page.\n\t\t$recipient = User::newFromName( $this->entry->getTarget()->getText(), false );\n\t\t$params[2] = Message::rawParam( $this->makeUserLink( $recipient ) );\n\t\treturn $params;\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e}\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003epublic function getPreloadTitles() {\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e\t\t\/\/ Add the recipient's user talk page to LinkBatch\n\t\treturn array( Title::makeTitle( NS_USER_TALK, $this->entry->getTarget()->getText() ) );\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e}\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003ch3 class=\"remarkup-header\"\u003e}\u003c\/h3\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis is the code that outputs the log entries at [[Special:Log\/thanks]].\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo... this would be a trivial change, iff the data were being logged.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #1)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe Log entry was designed specifically to not include the edit. That allows\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthe substance of the thanks to remain private while still providing a public\u003cbr \/\u003e\nrecord of the action in the event of someone using it for spamming.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYeah... I didn't even realize thanks were publicly logged until today. I tend to agree that some discretion might be appropriate here. This bug may ultimately be a wontfix, but it'll be helpful to have a record of the design decision.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_137\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hfqruszqdpj37vv6vqfa\/PHID-FILE-tv7754nkli43l2o32j25\/profile-002D1173669286friend_005Ficon)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Technical13\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539517\" id=\"539517\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_136\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Technical13\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_12\"\u003eTechnical13\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539517\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_135\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 3 2013, 5:27 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-03 17:27:48 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_133\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_134\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_13\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #1)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe Log entry was designed specifically to not include the edit. That allows\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthe substance of the thanks to remain private while still providing a public\u003cbr \/\u003e\nrecord of the action in the event of someone using it for spamming.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm not sure I follow the usefulness of that Ryan...\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI would think it would be more useful to have the edit in the log because once it scrolls off your notification flyout\/page, how else are you going to remember what it was?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAlso, having it public in the log (which I'm sure few will find) will make it easy to validate claims of people sarcastically thanking people in an attempt to harass them.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_144\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/jg4y3bjmnicnl6ph77ga\/PHID-FILE-p5j2xtg5wczrhfizkz3v\/profile-sailor.jpeg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/kaldari\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539524\" id=\"539524\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_143\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/kaldari\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_14\"\u003ekaldari\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539524\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_142\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 3 2013, 6:01 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-03 18:01:58 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_140\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_141\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_15\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI would think it would be more useful to have the edit in the log because once\u003cbr \/\u003e\nit scrolls off your notification flyout\/page, how else are you going to\u003cbr \/\u003e\nremember what it was?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThanks are intended to be ephemeral. I wouldn't expect someone to go trawling through the logs to find old thanks for themselves. That's not the intended use of the logging.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlso, having it public in the log (which I'm sure few will find) will make it\u003cbr \/\u003e\neasy to validate claims of people sarcastically thanking people in an attempt\u003cbr \/\u003e\nto harass them.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis seems like a more realistic use case and one that is probably worth discussing. Although I think there are far more effective ways to harass people on Wikipedia, it is a possible issue. My personal opinion would be to wait and see if this actually emerges as an issue before changing the log entries. I can also imagine cases where not including the edit may actually reduce conflict. For example, if you want to thank an editor for reverting a persistent vandal or POV-pusher, or you want to thank an admin who warned an editor who was harassing you. Just some things to think about.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_151\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ovytmbleapqqbp2q34as\/PHID-FILE-ukx4a3vvpumxtlt3rof2\/profile-Screen_Shot_2014-11-24_at_10.24.10_AM.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539534\" id=\"539534\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_150\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_16\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e bzimport\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539534\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_149\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 5 2013, 2:30 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-05 02:30:27 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_147\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_148\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_17\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003ekwwilliams\u003c\/strong\u003e wrote:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe contents of an on-wiki communication should never be kept confidential. Keeping "the substance of the thanks private" is inappropriate.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_158\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/eoev4ay3f7pmgzb4z5z6\/PHID-FILE-hularjzreqv44w5meweo\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ironholds\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539544\" id=\"539544\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_157\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ironholds\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_18\"\u003eIronholds\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539544\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_156\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 5 2013, 3:33 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-05 15:33:01 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_154\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_155\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_19\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #5)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe contents of an on-wiki communication should never be kept confidential.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nKeeping "the substance of the thanks private" is inappropriate.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo we should also remove the 'email' feature?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHere's my thinking here; what we're trying to avoid is a situation where the thanks button can in some way undermine consensus, or be used as a vector for it - we don't need (as you've pointed out, Kww) a situation where an editor justifies themselves based on thirty people hitting 'thank' on their edit.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eKeeping the subject of the 'thank' unlogged is a way of ensuring that this won't happen; it makes it utterly impossible for anyone to actually justify a statement of "well, lotsa people thought it was a good edit, check out my log". Adding the edits as an element makes this risk more likely, not less.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_165\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hfqruszqdpj37vv6vqfa\/PHID-FILE-tv7754nkli43l2o32j25\/profile-002D1173669286friend_005Ficon)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Technical13\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539556\" id=\"539556\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_164\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Technical13\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_20\"\u003eTechnical13\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539556\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_163\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 5 2013, 3:42 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-05 15:42:23 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_161\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_162\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_21\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #6)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #5)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe contents of an on-wiki communication should never be kept confidential.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nKeeping "the substance of the thanks private" is inappropriate.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo we should also remove the 'email' feature?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eemail would not be an on-wiki communication, therefor it is allowed to be private and you know that wasn't what kww said.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eHere's my thinking here; what we're trying to avoid is a situation where the\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthanks button can in some way undermine consensus, or be used as a vector for\u003cbr \/\u003e\nit - we don't need (as you've pointed out, Kww) a situation where an editor\u003cbr \/\u003e\njustifies themselves based on thirty people hitting 'thank' on their edit.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eKeeping the subject of the 'thank' unlogged is a way of ensuring that this\u003cbr \/\u003e\nwon't happen; it makes it utterly impossible for anyone to actually justify a\u003cbr \/\u003e\nstatement of "well, lotsa people thought it was a good edit, check out my\u003cbr \/\u003e\nlog".\u003cbr \/\u003e\nAdding the edits as an element makes this risk more likely, not less.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt also increase the likelihood of people abusing the feature to harass people by intentionally thanking and reverting multiple edits and offering the harassed no way of substantiating the claim and defending themselves.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI see both side of the argument.  What if.... We try and work out a middle ground that will address both concerns.  By this I mean add the revision link to be only capable of being seen by people with a certain flag.  I would think that it would be appropriate for the following groups to have the flag in this order of importance overseers, bureaucrats, administrators, and possibly reviewers.  Doable?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_172\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/eoev4ay3f7pmgzb4z5z6\/PHID-FILE-hularjzreqv44w5meweo\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ironholds\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539560\" id=\"539560\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_171\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ironholds\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_22\"\u003eIronholds\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539560\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_170\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 5 2013, 3:45 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-05 15:45:38 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_168\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_169\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_23\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #7)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #6)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #5)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe contents of an on-wiki communication should never be kept confidential.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nKeeping "the substance of the thanks private" is inappropriate.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo we should also remove the 'email' feature?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eemail would not be an on-wiki communication, therefor it is allowed to be\u003cbr \/\u003e\nprivate and you know that wasn't what kww said.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eHere's my thinking here; what we're trying to avoid is a situation where the\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthanks button can in some way undermine consensus, or be used as a vector for\u003cbr \/\u003e\nit - we don't need (as you've pointed out, Kww) a situation where an editor\u003cbr \/\u003e\njustifies themselves based on thirty people hitting 'thank' on their edit.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eKeeping the subject of the 'thank' unlogged is a way of ensuring that this\u003cbr \/\u003e\nwon't happen; it makes it utterly impossible for anyone to actually justify a\u003cbr \/\u003e\nstatement of "well, lotsa people thought it was a good edit, check out my\u003cbr \/\u003e\nlog".\u003cbr \/\u003e\nAdding the edits as an element makes this risk more likely, not less.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt also increase the likelihood of people abusing the feature to harass\u003cbr \/\u003e\npeople\u003cbr \/\u003e\nby intentionally thanking and reverting multiple edits and offering the\u003cbr \/\u003e\nharassed no way of substantiating the claim and defending themselves.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eExcept there's a rate limit, and if someone was to repeatedly thank a user that they were reverting the edits of I think \/someone\/ would twig.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eUserA thanks UserB many times. We can see this. UserA reverts UserB's edits many times. We can see this. It doesn't take linking the two together to notice that UserA is probably being a complete arse.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_179\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ovytmbleapqqbp2q34as\/PHID-FILE-ukx4a3vvpumxtlt3rof2\/profile-Screen_Shot_2014-11-24_at_10.24.10_AM.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539569\" id=\"539569\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_178\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_24\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e bzimport\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539569\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_177\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 5 2013, 3:49 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-05 15:49:59 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_175\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_176\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_25\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003ekwwilliams\u003c\/strong\u003e wrote:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #6)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #5)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe contents of an on-wiki communication should never be kept confidential.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nKeeping "the substance of the thanks private" is inappropriate.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo we should also remove the 'email' feature?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eRemoving e-mail as a feature wouldn't bother me much. It seems to be used primarily as a method of stealth canvassing. The only people that actually require private communication about Wikipedia matters are checkusers, and they have a list.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_186\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hfqruszqdpj37vv6vqfa\/PHID-FILE-tv7754nkli43l2o32j25\/profile-002D1173669286friend_005Ficon)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Technical13\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539584\" id=\"539584\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_185\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Technical13\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_26\"\u003eTechnical13\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539584\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_184\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 5 2013, 3:54 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-05 15:54:15 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_182\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_183\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_27\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #8)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #7)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #6)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #5)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe contents of an on-wiki communication should never be kept confidential.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nKeeping "the substance of the thanks private" is inappropriate.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo we should also remove the 'email' feature?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eemail would not be an on-wiki communication, therefor it is allowed to be\u003cbr \/\u003e\nprivate and you know that wasn't what kww said.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eHere's my thinking here; what we're trying to avoid is a situation where the\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthanks button can in some way undermine consensus, or be used as a vector for\u003cbr \/\u003e\nit - we don't need (as you've pointed out, Kww) a situation where an editor\u003cbr \/\u003e\njustifies themselves based on thirty people hitting 'thank' on their edit.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eKeeping the subject of the 'thank' unlogged is a way of ensuring that this\u003cbr \/\u003e\nwon't happen; it makes it utterly impossible for anyone to actually justify a\u003cbr \/\u003e\nstatement of "well, lotsa people thought it was a good edit, check out my\u003cbr \/\u003e\nlog".\u003cbr \/\u003e\nAdding the edits as an element makes this risk more likely, not less.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt also increase the likelihood of people abusing the feature to harass\u003cbr \/\u003e\npeople\u003cbr \/\u003e\nby intentionally thanking and reverting multiple edits and offering the\u003cbr \/\u003e\nharassed no way of substantiating the claim and defending themselves.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eExcept there's a rate limit, and if someone was to repeatedly thank a user\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthat\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthey were reverting the edits of I think \/someone\/ would twig.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eUserA thanks UserB many times. We can see this. UserA reverts UserB's edits\u003cbr \/\u003e\nmany times. We can see this. It doesn't take linking the two together to\u003cbr \/\u003e\nnotice\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthat UserA is probably being a complete arse.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eExcept User A has a plausible deniability of saying I thanked for DFG and reverted TYU.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_193\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ovytmbleapqqbp2q34as\/PHID-FILE-ukx4a3vvpumxtlt3rof2\/profile-Screen_Shot_2014-11-24_at_10.24.10_AM.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539594\" id=\"539594\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_192\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_28\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e bzimport\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539594\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_191\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 5 2013, 3:57 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-05 15:57:28 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_189\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_190\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_29\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003ekwwilliams\u003c\/strong\u003e wrote:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI see both side of the argument.  What if.... We try and work out a middle\u003cbr \/\u003e\nground that will address both concerns.  By this I mean add the revision link\u003cbr \/\u003e\nto be only capable of being seen by people with a certain flag.  I would\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthink\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthat it would be appropriate for the following groups to have the flag in\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthis\u003cbr \/\u003e\norder of importance overseers, bureaucrats, administrators, and possibly\u003cbr \/\u003e\nreviewers.  Doable?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI suspect that Epipalegic and the rest of the "evil admins controlling Wikipedia" crew would have a field day. I once saw an editor claim that the reason admins speedy-deleted so many articles was so that we could keep the good content a secret from the rank-and-file.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI still think the best way to deal with this problem is to pull the feature entirely, but if we have to have it, it should be kept transparent.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_200\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/eoev4ay3f7pmgzb4z5z6\/PHID-FILE-hularjzreqv44w5meweo\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ironholds\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539606\" id=\"539606\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_199\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ironholds\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_30\"\u003eIronholds\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539606\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_198\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 5 2013, 3:58 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-05 15:58:23 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_196\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_197\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_31\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #10)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #8)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #7)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #6)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #5)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe contents of an on-wiki communication should never be kept confidential.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nKeeping "the substance of the thanks private" is inappropriate.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo we should also remove the 'email' feature?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eemail would not be an on-wiki communication, therefor it is allowed to be\u003cbr \/\u003e\nprivate and you know that wasn't what kww said.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eHere's my thinking here; what we're trying to avoid is a situation where the\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthanks button can in some way undermine consensus, or be used as a vector for\u003cbr \/\u003e\nit - we don't need (as you've pointed out, Kww) a situation where an editor\u003cbr \/\u003e\njustifies themselves based on thirty people hitting 'thank' on their edit.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eKeeping the subject of the 'thank' unlogged is a way of ensuring that this\u003cbr \/\u003e\nwon't happen; it makes it utterly impossible for anyone to actually justify a\u003cbr \/\u003e\nstatement of "well, lotsa people thought it was a good edit, check out my\u003cbr \/\u003e\nlog".\u003cbr \/\u003e\nAdding the edits as an element makes this risk more likely, not less.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt also increase the likelihood of people abusing the feature to harass\u003cbr \/\u003e\npeople\u003cbr \/\u003e\nby intentionally thanking and reverting multiple edits and offering the\u003cbr \/\u003e\nharassed no way of substantiating the claim and defending themselves.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eExcept there's a rate limit, and if someone was to repeatedly thank a user\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthat\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthey were reverting the edits of I think \/someone\/ would twig.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eUserA thanks UserB many times. We can see this. UserA reverts UserB's edits\u003cbr \/\u003e\nmany times. We can see this. It doesn't take linking the two together to\u003cbr \/\u003e\nnotice\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthat UserA is probably being a complete arse.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eExcept User A has a plausible deniability of saying I thanked for DFG and\u003cbr \/\u003e\nreverted TYU.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSure, but users with a large number of edits that justify reverts are unlikely to be users with a large number of edits worth thanking.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_207\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/eoev4ay3f7pmgzb4z5z6\/PHID-FILE-hularjzreqv44w5meweo\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ironholds\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539623\" id=\"539623\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_206\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ironholds\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_32\"\u003eIronholds\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539623\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_205\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJun 9 2013, 3:08 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-06-09 03:08:45 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_203\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_204\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_33\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWONTFIXing to be clear. The negatives of surfacing this far outweigh the positives.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_216\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lmqso2pdiuhzvrx7fltm\/PHID-FILE-g4ayg62xazjsnsxkgiqt\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_L.png-_48a3ba-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_214\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_215\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539636\" id=\"539636\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_213\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_34\"\u003eLegoktm\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539636\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_212\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eAug 21 2013, 8:07 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-08-21 20:07:48 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_210\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_211\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_35\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eBug 53171 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_225\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/lmqso2pdiuhzvrx7fltm\/PHID-FILE-g4ayg62xazjsnsxkgiqt\/alphanumeric_lato-dark_L.png-_48a3ba-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-badges\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"phui-badge-flex-view grouped flex-view-collapsed \"\u003e\u003cli class=\"phui-badge-flex-item\"\u003e\u003ca class=\"phui-badge-mini phui-badge-mini-orange \" href=\"\/badges\/view\/17\/\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_223\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-rocket\" data-meta=\"0_224\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539646\" id=\"539646\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_222\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Legoktm\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_36\"\u003eLegoktm\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539646\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_221\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eSep 28 2013, 10:51 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-09-28 22:51:30 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_219\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_220\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_37\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eBug 54748 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_232\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xbxvqd7lop7kondp5oqc\/PHID-FILE-ju4x4tqpgywo7yvcf3u2\/profile-empty.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Nemo_bis\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539658\" id=\"539658\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_231\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Nemo_bis\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_38\"\u003eNemo_bis\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539658\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_230\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 4 2013, 6:14 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-10-04 18:14:21 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_228\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_229\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_39\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eREOPEN for basic accountability needs.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e19.34 < jdlrobson> are we able to detect the difference between a sarcastic thank and a genuine thank?\u003cbr \/\u003e\n19.34 < jdlrobson> something like Abusefilter\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe lack of basic accountability measures in the extension generates distrust in the tool as a whole. Bug 54983 comment 3 shows that communities want users to be held accountable for their thanking.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nAlso, the log is almost completely meaningless and frustrating as of now, because each entry gives absolutely 0 context. Logs like patrol, pagetranslation, translationnotifications do this without problems, let's not make a fuss about such a simple and obvious request please.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_239\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/eoev4ay3f7pmgzb4z5z6\/PHID-FILE-hularjzreqv44w5meweo\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Ironholds\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539669\" id=\"539669\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_238\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Ironholds\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_40\"\u003eIronholds\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539669\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_237\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 4 2013, 6:25 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-10-04 18:25:37 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_235\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_236\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_41\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI've not seen distrust generated; I would suggest that fixing this bug would lead to greater problems in the opposite direction (thanks being used for polling or endorsements, for example). I agree, we shouldn't make a fuss - we should just close it. Again.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_246\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xbxvqd7lop7kondp5oqc\/PHID-FILE-ju4x4tqpgywo7yvcf3u2\/profile-empty.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Nemo_bis\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539685\" id=\"539685\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_245\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Nemo_bis\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_42\"\u003eNemo_bis\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539685\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_244\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 4 2013, 6:33 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-10-04 18:33:56 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_242\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_243\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_43\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSorry, this needs to be left open for discussion.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_253\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ixrqqebwdlzhyielbdy7\/PHID-FILE-pewnwfbdummxikqwcf2l\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Hex\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539693\" id=\"539693\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_252\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Hex\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_44\"\u003eHex\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539693\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_251\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 4 2013, 7:11 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-10-04 19:11:11 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_249\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_250\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_45\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI'm here from the duplicate in comment 15.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThere are all sorts of usage patterns that could occur with this tool, good and bad, and providing a partial log is worse than useless; it's actually bad. It encourages baseless guessing (and curiosity over and above the usual), and actually makes life harder for anyone trying to genuinely identify use of the tool.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eEither make the data generated by the thanking tool totally private, like Special:EmailUser (which I happen to agree with Kww could be removed entirely), or make it entirely public, just like all other on-wiki activities. This halfway house is of benefit to nobody.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_260\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/6p2trpcntqjtlvakxda6\/PHID-FILE-wezkx3b7eyo34b6doywi\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/matmarex\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539699\" id=\"539699\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_259\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/matmarex\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_46\"\u003ematmarex\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539699\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_258\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 4 2013, 8:53 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-10-04 20:53:09 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_256\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_257\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_47\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAfter just having had a bad experience related to Thanks on pl.wp (account suspected of being a sockpuppet of a troll spamming thanks to an user involved in banishing the troll) I'm inclined to agree with Scott. The log should be full (maybe accessible only to checkusers or stewards or something, but accessible to *someone*), or should not exist.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_267\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/qhbru4xhbrda7reiexjz\/PHID-FILE-7kna53wozq4hgjs47ihv\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Isarra\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539705\" id=\"539705\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_266\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Isarra\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_48\"\u003eIsarra\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539705\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_265\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 4 2013, 9:00 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-10-04 21:00:48 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_263\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_264\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_49\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWhat Scott Martin and Nemo bis said.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eA log that doesn't give context is generally useless at best, and why should anyone genuinely thanking someone else want to hide? If there truly is reason, it should only be for special cases, and for those an email or other private correspondence would probably be more appropriate anyway.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAccountability has become inherent in how these projects operate, but for things that are best off the record (whether for reasons of politeness or policy or just generally avoiding drama or what have you), there are off-wiki ways to discuss\/handle them. I'm not convinced of any need for that to change here.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_274\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hfqruszqdpj37vv6vqfa\/PHID-FILE-tv7754nkli43l2o32j25\/profile-002D1173669286friend_005Ficon)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Technical13\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539715\" id=\"539715\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_273\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Technical13\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_50\"\u003eTechnical13\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539715\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_272\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 5 2013, 1:43 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-10-05 01:43:56 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_270\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_271\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_51\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSo, it appears that my use case is materializing now...  Sits back to watch. :)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_281\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ovytmbleapqqbp2q34as\/PHID-FILE-ukx4a3vvpumxtlt3rof2\/profile-Screen_Shot_2014-11-24_at_10.24.10_AM.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539726\" id=\"539726\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_280\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_52\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e bzimport\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539726\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_279\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 5 2013, 1:53 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-10-05 01:53:21 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_277\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_278\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_53\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eswalling\u003c\/strong\u003e wrote:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe logs that were built in to Thanks were for accountability. But they were built in to prevent excessive, spam-like blasts of indiscriminate thanks, not control for quality of thanking in relation to the edit.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNemo: Jon's comment from IRC was a sarcastic joke in and of itself. The mobile team pulled a prank on its technical lead creating a bunch of fake to-do items of "high priority" one of which was to investigate "thanks trolling".\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe thank you message is the same whether you really mean it or not. It is not possible to send a malicious or sarcastic thank you, per se, only one that is confusing (such as if you also leave the person a warning message).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThanks on Wikipedia are just that: a message of gratitude from one user to the other. Who is thanking whom is not really anybody else's business. It's not a public display of gratitude or appreciation for a given edit. Not mentioning which edit was associated with the thank you is very much intentional, to avoid implying that particular edits are better than others because they received thanks.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eRecently, we removed showing thank yous in Special:Logs by default (bug 52118) based on community request: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Notifications\/Thanks&oldid=571964775#Must_we_list_every_Thank_under_.22View_logs.22.3F\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Notifications\/Thanks&oldid=571964775#Must_we_list_every_Thank_under_.22View_logs.22.3F\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThere is little evidence that Thanks are something used abusively at all, and that they need monitoring in the same way edits or uploads do. Transparency is one of our values yes, but that doesn't mean we completely avoid private messages between users (Cf. Special:EmailUser).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_288\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/5jthoz7jsgkdv2urcn4p\/PHID-FILE-625muwnyjyqrkzxbtizx\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539746\" id=\"539746\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_287\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/MZMcBride\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_54\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e MZMcBride\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539746\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_286\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 5 2013, 4:44 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-10-05 16:44:18 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_284\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_285\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_55\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI don't think it'll be an issue because the information is not currently logged, as I understand it, but if the behavior is changed here, we have to ensure that past thanks are not retroactively linked to specific edits. Users currently thank with the expectation that their thanks are unattributed to any specific edit and we can't violate that.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_295\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ovytmbleapqqbp2q34as\/PHID-FILE-ukx4a3vvpumxtlt3rof2\/profile-Screen_Shot_2014-11-24_at_10.24.10_AM.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539766\" id=\"539766\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_294\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_56\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e bzimport\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539766\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_293\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 7 2013, 5:28 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-10-07 17:28:47 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_291\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_292\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_57\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eswalling\u003c\/strong\u003e wrote:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e(In reply to comment #24)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI don't think it'll be an issue because the information is not currently\u003cbr \/\u003e\nlogged, as I understand it, but if the behavior is changed here, we have to\u003cbr \/\u003e\nensure that past thanks are not retroactively linked to specific edits. Users\u003cbr \/\u003e\ncurrently thank with the expectation that their thanks are unattributed to\u003cbr \/\u003e\nany\u003cbr \/\u003e\nspecific edit and we can't violate that.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMy comment was not about retroactive compatibility. It was reiterating why this was WONTFIXed.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWe don't add logging "just because" or on principle. We do it for a reason. In this case, the potential drawbacks outweigh the benefits. Consider the factors at play here, when considering what kind logging is needed:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThere is little opportunity for abuse, beyond sheer volume, which is also rate limited.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThere has been almost no over-use or other abuse to date. No one has presented any evidence this occurs regularly. The example brought up in Comment 20 is as far as I can tell not a remotely common problem.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThe English Wikipedia community, as a big example and the community with the most experience with the feature, finds even the current logs to be not useful. They specifically requested we not show them by default, because there is no reason to monitor them.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eNo one wants Thanks to become a popularity contest, where diffs can be ranked or assessed by whether they receive thank yous. Making "thanks" a public +1 for an edit would poison the well. This is not a Like button for edits, and let's keep it that way.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf people really think it's an all-or-nothing issue, where the logs should be turned off entirely unless the diff is also logged, that should be a separate bug.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_302\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ovytmbleapqqbp2q34as\/PHID-FILE-ukx4a3vvpumxtlt3rof2\/profile-Screen_Shot_2014-11-24_at_10.24.10_AM.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539777\" id=\"539777\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_301\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_58\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e bzimport\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539777\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_300\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 7 2013, 6:01 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-10-07 18:01:35 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_298\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_299\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_59\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eswalling\u003c\/strong\u003e wrote:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eBug 55428 nows outlines the request to remove all logging.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e(I'm personally agnostic on the issue, just documenting it separately for the sake of clarity.)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_309\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xbxvqd7lop7kondp5oqc\/PHID-FILE-ju4x4tqpgywo7yvcf3u2\/profile-empty.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Nemo_bis\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539784\" id=\"539784\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_308\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Nemo_bis\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_60\"\u003eNemo_bis\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539784\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_307\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eOct 7 2013, 6:09 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2013-10-07 18:09:17 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_305\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_306\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_61\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eOn "a popularity contest, where diffs can be ranked or assessed by whether they receive thank yous": did someone explain somewhere how this would be a consequence of this request? It generally would not, unless the thanks log also became filterable by revision ID; logs linking specific revisions generally are not, as far as I can see.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_316\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/res\/phabricator\/e132bb6a\/rsrc\/image\/avatar.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/PiRSquared17\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539795\" id=\"539795\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_315\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/PiRSquared17\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_62\"\u003ePiRSquared17\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539795\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_314\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 24 2014, 6:46 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-02-24 18:46:51 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_312\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_313\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_63\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eMaybe we should keep all previous thanks private (not sure if they're stored in a table anyway) as the thankers may have expected privacy. Just something to consider here.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_323\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hfqruszqdpj37vv6vqfa\/PHID-FILE-tv7754nkli43l2o32j25\/profile-002D1173669286friend_005Ficon)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Technical13\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539805\" id=\"539805\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_322\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Technical13\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_64\"\u003eTechnical13\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539805\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_321\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eFeb 24 2014, 6:55 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-02-24 18:55:00 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_319\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_320\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_65\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to PiRSquared17 from comment #28)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eMaybe we should keep all previous thanks private (not sure if they're stored\u003cbr \/\u003e\nin a table anyway) as the thankers may have expected privacy. Just something\u003cbr \/\u003e\nto consider here.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI've no problem with only select set of contributors being able to see this information in the logs as long as the system can access the information in the database as needed to know if User:A has already thanked User:B for revision:\u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e#\u003c\/tt\u003e##.  I think that both User:A and User:B should see which edit the thank was for and I also think that a vetted group such as administrators, ArbCom members, or identified groups such as oversighters should have access to the information.  I think this information should be made retroactively if that is possible.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_330\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hagejusadb45atmqzcwn\/PHID-FILE-7afdbjm6t3rpvsbw5uco\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539817\" id=\"539817\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_329\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-partial phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_66\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Quiddity\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539817\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_328\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 10 2014, 7:51 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-03-10 19:51:07 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_326\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_327\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_67\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eBug 62507 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_337\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/rc2wn6zy4xhzq5n5i74e\/PHID-FILE-apl6lcsccs3qjwl5wkvh\/alphanumeric_lato-white_P.png-_c7b794-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.7.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Pharos\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539823\" id=\"539823\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_336\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Pharos\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_68\"\u003ePharos\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539823\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_335\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 10 2014, 8:01 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-03-10 20:01:22 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_333\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_334\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_69\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eEven as the user who was thanked or who did the thanking, I can't tell from the log what edit this is for.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI got a notice when I was originally thanked, perhaps a few months ago, but AFAIK there is no way for me to reconstruct that now.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_344\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hagejusadb45atmqzcwn\/PHID-FILE-7afdbjm6t3rpvsbw5uco\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539828\" id=\"539828\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_343\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-partial phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_70\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Quiddity\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539828\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_342\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 10 2014, 10:49 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-03-10 22:49:06 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_340\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_341\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_71\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to Pharos from comment #31)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eEven as the user who was thanked or who did the thanking, I can't tell from\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthe log what edit this is for.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI got a notice when I was originally thanked, perhaps a few months ago, but\u003cbr \/\u003e\nAFAIK there is no way for me to reconstruct that now.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYou should be able to find details in your [[Special:Notifications]] page, although I don't know how far back that archive extends. \u003cbr \/\u003e\nI vaguely recall a discussion about it only going back 365 days, but that might have been a suggestion, rather than the actual implementation. \u003cbr \/\u003e\nIf anyone knows\/finds out, please document it at \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Echo\/Feature_requirements#Echo_Notification_Storage\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Echo\/Feature_requirements#Echo_Notification_Storage\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_351\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hfqruszqdpj37vv6vqfa\/PHID-FILE-tv7754nkli43l2o32j25\/profile-002D1173669286friend_005Ficon)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Technical13\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539831\" id=\"539831\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_350\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Technical13\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_72\"\u003eTechnical13\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539831\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_349\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 10 2014, 11:16 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-03-10 23:16:00 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_347\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_348\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_73\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to Quiddity from comment #32)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to Pharos from comment #31)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eEven as the user who was thanked or who did the thanking, I can't tell from\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthe log what edit this is for.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI got a notice when I was originally thanked, perhaps a few months ago, but\u003cbr \/\u003e\nAFAIK there is no way for me to reconstruct that now.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYou should be able to find details in your [[Special:Notifications]] page,\u003cbr \/\u003e\nalthough I don't know how far back that archive extends. \u003cbr \/\u003e\nI vaguely recall a discussion about it only going back 365 days, but that\u003cbr \/\u003e\nmight have been a suggestion, rather than the actual implementation. \u003cbr \/\u003e\nIf anyone knows\/finds out, please document it at\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Echo\/\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/www.mediawiki.org\/wiki\/Echo\/\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nFeature_requirements#Echo_Notification_Storage\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhile digging through your [[Special:Notifications]] page may be possible, it is entirely impractical to expect to be able to find a notification even a month ago when you receive dozens of mentions and talk page notifications daily.  Don't forget that the notifications page only loads a few results at a time and you have to actively click on "show more" to get the next chunk.  That means if you average 15 notifications a day, this is a few clicks to load each day's notifications and if you want something that was a month back, likely 100 or more clicks to get back that far.  It should simply be available in the log which offers at least some filtering so you can show results that were in or before month of year.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_358\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xbxvqd7lop7kondp5oqc\/PHID-FILE-ju4x4tqpgywo7yvcf3u2\/profile-empty.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Nemo_bis\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539846\" id=\"539846\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_357\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Nemo_bis\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_74\"\u003eNemo_bis\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539846\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_356\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMar 11 2014, 7:58 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-03-11 07:58:13 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_354\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_355\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_75\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eCreated attachment 14789\u003cbr \/\u003e\n15 months old notifications\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThere are certainly older notifications. However, one of the root issues\/design decisions of Echo is, long story short, that notifications are meant to be ephemeral rather than long-lasting. It's a big shift for those used to talk pages, yes.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eAttached\u003c\/strong\u003e: \u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/klizvjhx3ue2acy3zmsu\/PHID-FILE-nmtesxaimpda77zcxon7\/NotificationsYear.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_1\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ubpzleisnfhjfgzfiozl\/PHID-FILE-oavo4ihadmvxyvpgtak6\/preview-NotificationsYear.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"165\" alt=\"NotificationsYear.png (768\u00d71 px, 64 KB)\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_365\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hagejusadb45atmqzcwn\/PHID-FILE-7afdbjm6t3rpvsbw5uco\/profile)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539863\" id=\"539863\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_364\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Quiddity\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-partial phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_76\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e Quiddity\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539863\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_363\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eApr 23 2014, 7:09 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-04-23 19:09:45 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_361\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_362\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_77\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eBug 64284 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_372\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/res\/phabricator\/e132bb6a\/rsrc\/image\/avatar.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Withoutaname\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539879\" id=\"539879\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_371\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Withoutaname\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_78\"\u003eWithoutaname\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539879\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_370\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 16 2014, 10:55 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-05-16 22:55:42 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_368\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_369\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_79\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAs I understand the feature from having a brief read through the tech news, the Notifications\/Thanks feature was developed by the Editor Engagement Experience team, in order to try and strike a fine balance between trying to draw in newer editors by introducing a friendly "Likes" feature and simultaneously keeping it ephemeral and private enough to avoid the public scrutiny of the "We are not Facebook" crowd. Of course, as a feature design, it's extremely difficult to reach that balance without tilting too much one way or the other. I'm surprised that people did not know about the design choice to keep a log public while not revealing the target edit of the Thanks (avoiding point-scoring).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAt the same time, the third previously unaccounted-for aspect of this feature, which is the accountability, and subsequently the abuse, did not seem to be properly addressed. Perhaps we should make something even as trivial as a friendly thank you message to someone else, subject to intense scrutiny, curation, triple-checking and investigation for abuse by oversighters or whatever powers that be.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_379\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/jg4y3bjmnicnl6ph77ga\/PHID-FILE-p5j2xtg5wczrhfizkz3v\/profile-sailor.jpeg)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/kaldari\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539887\" id=\"539887\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_378\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/kaldari\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_80\"\u003ekaldari\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539887\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_377\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 16 2014, 11:59 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-05-16 23:59:30 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_375\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_376\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_81\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eOne of the other considerations that weighed heavily in the design of the Thanks feature was to avoid the feature bloat that doomed ArticleFeedback. Everyone hated ArticleFeedback because it required so much work to curate, monitor, and oversight for very little actual benefit. Thanks was designed to avoid all of that by being dead simple and ephemeral.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhile keeping a detailed permanent record of every action that transpires on Wikipedia sounds like a good idea on paper, it has real costs in additional workload for the community, especially folks like admins and oversighters who have to deal with complaints. The way we tried to strike a balance was giving people a way to complain about Thank volume abuse (sending too many thanks), but avoiding the drama of people complaining about who thanked who for what edit. Do we really want another noticeboard for "Inappropriate thanks"?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_386\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ovytmbleapqqbp2q34as\/PHID-FILE-ukx4a3vvpumxtlt3rof2\/profile-Screen_Shot_2014-11-24_at_10.24.10_AM.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539897\" id=\"539897\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_385\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/bzimport\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_82\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e bzimport\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539897\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_384\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 17 2014, 12:08 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-05-17 00:08:47 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_382\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_383\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_83\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eswalling\u003c\/strong\u003e wrote:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e(In reply to TeleComNasSprVen from comment #36)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eAs I understand the feature from having a brief read through the tech news,\u003cbr \/\u003e\nthe Notifications\/Thanks feature was developed by the Editor Engagement\u003cbr \/\u003e\nExperience team, in order to try and strike a fine balance between trying to\u003cbr \/\u003e\ndraw in newer editors by introducing a friendly "Likes" feature and\u003cbr \/\u003e\nsimultaneously keeping it ephemeral and private enough to avoid the public\u003cbr \/\u003e\nscrutiny of the "We are not Facebook" crowd. Of course, as a feature design,\u003cbr \/\u003e\nit's extremely difficult to reach that balance without tilting too much one\u003cbr \/\u003e\nway or the other. I'm surprised that people did not know about the design\u003cbr \/\u003e\nchoice to keep a log public while not revealing the target edit of the\u003cbr \/\u003e\nThanks (avoiding point-scoring).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAt the same time, the third previously unaccounted-for aspect of this\u003cbr \/\u003e\nfeature, which is the accountability, and subsequently the abuse, did not\u003cbr \/\u003e\nseem to be properly addressed. Perhaps we should make something even as\u003cbr \/\u003e\ntrivial as a friendly thank you message to someone else, subject to intense\u003cbr \/\u003e\nscrutiny, curation, triple-checking and investigation for abuse by\u003cbr \/\u003e\noversighters or whatever powers that be.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt is unclear to me that it is in fact possible to really abuse the feature.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eConsider the following:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eYou can't write a custom message with the thanks, so the notification contents is always friendly.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThe use of thanks is rate limited. If we want, we can talk about whether to increase that rate limit.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAccountability doesn't really enter into the matter when thanks is a standardized action with no negative consequences, with the exception of sending an excessive\/annoying number of notifications.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_393\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/res\/phabricator\/e132bb6a\/rsrc\/image\/avatar.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Withoutaname\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539913\" id=\"539913\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_392\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Withoutaname\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_84\"\u003eWithoutaname\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539913\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_391\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 17 2014, 12:33 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-05-17 00:33:38 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_389\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_390\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_85\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to TeleComNasSprVen from comment #36)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003ePerhaps we should make something even as trivial as a friendly thank you\u003cbr \/\u003e\nmessage to someone else, subject to intense scrutiny, curation, triple-checking\u003cbr \/\u003e\nand investigation for abuse by oversighters or whatever powers that be.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis was written half-satirically and I agree with Kaldari that we shouldn't be spending too much resources for oversight on such a simple feature. At the same time we needed to establish a few simple abuse checks in place (your rate limit is one good example).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_400\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xbxvqd7lop7kondp5oqc\/PHID-FILE-ju4x4tqpgywo7yvcf3u2\/profile-empty.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Nemo_bis\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539920\" id=\"539920\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_399\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Nemo_bis\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_86\"\u003eNemo_bis\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539920\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_398\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eMay 17 2014, 6:30 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-05-17 06:30:30 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_396\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_397\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_87\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to Ryan Kaldari from comment #37)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eOne of the other considerations that weighed heavily in the design of the\u003cbr \/\u003e\nThanks feature was to avoid the feature bloat that doomed ArticleFeedback.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAs demonstrated above, including an oldid\/rev_id in a log row is standard log formatting, so it can't in any way be considered feature bloat and has nothing to do with AFT (which, for instance, reinvented logging instead of using Special:Log, with catastrophic consequences).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_407\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ied4uhepf36ypa3nofxt\/PHID-FILE-3wexu5vn7ik2tafjyzdk\/profile-profile-baselogo135.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Base\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539934\" id=\"539934\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_406\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Base\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_88\"\u003eBase\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539934\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_405\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eSep 18 2014, 7:21 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-09-18 19:21:46 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_403\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_404\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_89\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI was about to file a duplicate bug when noticed this one :)  Here goes the text I've written for the almost filed dup:\u003cbr \/\u003e\nWhen someone thanked you for a edit you made you can click on the notification you receive and see what edit exactly you were thanked for. But if you see in the Special:Log\/thanks a thank of user A to user B you can't see what exactly he was thanked for. If user B has 1 edit then there are no questions but if he has more edits than it's not an easy task to determine the object of thank. I'm used that on-wiki I can see everything save for some private things like OS and CU logs, other users' whatchlists so it seems not right that I can't see the data in the case. I assume the data are not private in the issue because otherwise I can see little sense in existence of the log at all.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_414\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/ied4uhepf36ypa3nofxt\/PHID-FILE-3wexu5vn7ik2tafjyzdk\/profile-profile-baselogo135.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Base\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"539939\" id=\"539939\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_413\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Base\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_90\"\u003eBase\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#539939\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_412\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eSep 18 2014, 7:26 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-09-18 19:26:34 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_410\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_411\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_91\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e(In reply to Oliver Keyes from comment #6)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eKeeping the subject of the 'thank' unlogged is a way of ensuring that this\u003cbr \/\u003e\nwon't happen; it makes it utterly impossible for anyone to actually justify\u003cbr \/\u003e\na statement of "well, lotsa people thought it was a good edit, check out my\u003cbr \/\u003e\nlog". Adding the edits as an element makes this risk more likely, not less.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe abuser described already could just give a screenshot of his notification page or whatsoever.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_418\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/xbxvqd7lop7kondp5oqc\/PHID-FILE-ju4x4tqpgywo7yvcf3u2\/profile-empty.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Nemo_bis\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"843812\" id=\"843812\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-trophy phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_416\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view sprite-tokens tokens-like-1 phui-timeline-token\" data-meta=\"0_417\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Nemo_bis\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_92\"\u003eNemo_bis\u003c\/a\u003e awarded a token.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#843812\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_415\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eDec 12 2014, 8:22 AM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2014-12-12 08:22:55 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_425\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/hfqruszqdpj37vv6vqfa\/PHID-FILE-tv7754nkli43l2o32j25\/profile-002D1173669286friend_005Ficon)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Technical13\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"983850\" id=\"983850\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_424\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Technical13\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_93\"\u003eTechnical13\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#983850\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_423\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"screen-only\"\u003eJan 17 2015, 12:36 PM\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"print-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e2015-01-17 12:36:13 (UTC+0)\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_421\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_422\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_94\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard\/Incidents#Disruptive_.22Thanking.22_by_non-contributor_User:Serial_Thanker:_Indef_block_needed\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttp:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard\/Incidents#Disruptive_.22Thanking.22_by_non-contributor_User:Serial_Thanker:_Indef_block_needed\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-orange\" data-sigil=\"transaction anchor-container\" data-meta=\"0_429\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phab.wmfusercontent.org\/file\/data\/c33qhundr7y4be6d44a4\/PHID-FILE-n62pq2lv7cf4yjpa4fxk\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_U.png-_92b8c4-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.4.png)\" class=\"visual-only phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Umherirrender\/\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"986911\" id=\"986911\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-orange\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-compress phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_427\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Umherirrender\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_95\"\u003eUmherirrender\u003c\/a\u003e merged a task: \u003cspan class=\"\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/T87233\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_96\"\u003eT87233: Include a link to the related revision in Thanks 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id=\"1039308\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-orange\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-compress phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_434\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Umherirrender\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_102\"\u003eUmherirrender\u003c\/a\u003e merged a task: \u003cspan class=\"\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/T89557\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_103\"\u003eT89557: Thanks log isn't informative: Should include link to the thanked edit\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#1039308\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_433\"\u003e\u003cspan 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