‘Start a discussion’ affordance should also be on existing talk pages that have no discussions
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	stjn
	Apr 14 2024, 9:10 PM

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Feature summary (what you would like to be able to do and where):
It is a great affordance that when you go to https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Обсуждение:Деммель,_Юрген it displays a message about what opening a new topic means. It would be even better if this affordance was displayed in cases like https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Обсуждение:Бабушкины_сказки_(картина) where there are no comments on the page but the page exists because of the need to put templates there.

Benefits (why should this be implemented?):
This would make it easier for newer contributors to create new topics on the discussion pages.

Comparison between two pages:

Mentioned Here: rMW6d80f9e793ad: In OutputPage::addParserOutput, getText() before processing metadata
T312599: Show the new topic empty state experience on pages which have templates, but no discussions

DiscussionTools mutates the ParserOutput in 'OutputPageParserOutput' hook handler here: https://codesearch.wmcloud.org/search/?q=appendToEmptyTalkPage and expected that to have an effect, but after that change, it no longer does.