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Disable patrolling on de.wikipedia
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As a follow-up of T100682, a solution if the de. local community doesn't use the patrol features at all is to set $wgUseNPPatrol, $wgUseFilePatrol and $wgUseRCPatrol to false to disable patrolling.

Could you discuss the idea?

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Please create new tasks once it's discussed by the community. Feel free to reopen if needed in the future.

I don't see anyting here that has to be discussed by community, because patrolluing in dewiki is s bug, and not a feature, because we don't use patrol at all. But sometimes pages and revisions are patroled by reviewing, although nobosy wants sthis, because it's only spamming into the log.

Because this request is only tehniccally, ther shouldn't be a community consensus needed. By the way, I thought if a task needs community consensus, it is marked as stalled instead of being closed?

MGChecker renamed this task from Disable new pages patrolling on de.wikipedia to Disable patrolling on de.wikipedia.Jun 17 2015, 8:24 PM
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The partolling on dewiki is not possible for users, the patrolllink is disabled by the common.css since years. So the only thing you see on dewiki is autopatrol, which just floods the logs.

Wondering why a feature which isn't used needs consensus to be removed...

That'ts true, but it seems that autopatrol is included in autoreview, because there are also automatic patrolled revisions from users, who haven't got autopatrol: https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spezial:Logbuch&type=patrol

Ah, makes sense to do this then. Thanks for the explanation. I didn't realize that this wasn't used on German Wikipedia.

I remember something, but I'm not sure if it's correct: Was there any bug that after disabling patrolling completely, that patrol log entries can't be hidden anymore?

I think the main question behind this is: Does the right patrolmarks still work after disabling patrolling?

I remember something, but I'm not sure if it's correct: Was there any bug that after disabling patrolling completely, that patrol log entries can't be hidden anymore?

I think the main question behind this is: Does the right patrolmarks still work after disabling patrolling?

@Cenarium: Do you know?

The problem isn't the community consensus, because the request is only technically and doesn't really change anything for the users.

I remember something, but I'm not sure if it's correct: Was there any bug that after disabling patrolling completely, that patrol log entries can't be hidden anymore?

I think the main question behind this is: Does the right patrolmarks still work after disabling patrolling?

@Cenarium: Do you know?

It's T44246.

Note that file patrol is now possible. FlaggedRevs is also enabled for files, I see. So I suppose you would also like $wgUseFilePatrol set to false.

The flood problem remains though.

Is this still wanted/required? An update would be good. Thanks.

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Mass-declining of all old "Blocked on community consensus" site request tasks. If this is still wanted, please make sure community consensus was reached and if so, please re-open this task and link to the discussion.

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re-open:

Please deactivate
$wgUseFilePatrol and $wgUseNPPatrol on de.wikipedia as there is a new situation:

Patrol buttons are already hidden via https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css and https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Mobile.css after discussion. I have not seen any objections that admins or other groups would still need this function since february 2021.

see also T100682

I personally think that switching off patrolmarks on dewiki completely makes moor sense because it is defacto not in use and just creating unnecessary logentry's.

Indeed. Why not just set [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUseRCPatrol | $wgUseRCPatrol ]] / [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUseNPPatrol | $wgUseNPPatrol ]] to false? That's how FlagRev is used on the Hungarian Wikipedia and we had no problems with it.

See also projects that have already deactivated patrol buttons in InitialiseSettings.php:
'wgUseNPPatrol' => [
'default' => true, brion 2007-11-16
'fishbowl' => false,
T74239
'private' => false, T74239
'huwiki' => false,
T21241
'ruwiki' => false, T33650
'sqwiki' => false,
T27822
'ukwiki' => false, T35273
'bswiki' => false,
T158662
],

'wgUseFilePatrol' => [
'default' => true,
'huwiki' => false, T21241
'ruwiki' => false,
T154285
'bswiki' => false, // T158662
],

Is it also possible to remove all configurations related to patrol function on de.wikipedia? Like patrol log in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgFilterLogTypes $wgFilterLogTypes and group rights for patrolmarks?

@Wnme: If there is a new request, please file a new request by following https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes - thanks a lot!