re: user-side docs. there is https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists

also see: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Administration for admins

They should also come under this task ideally then to improve them if need be. History goes back to 2004 and looking at it, seems mostly the same content so best to verify.

To resolve a main issue right now; here is a very quick modification to the documentation I'll apply (noting here as well).

Disabling a list should be the following commands:

echo "advertised=0" | config_list -i /dev/stdin $list
echo "emergency=1"  | config_list -i /dev/stdin $list
echo "member_moderation_action=2" | config_list -i /dev/stdin $list
echo "generic_nonmember_action=2" | config_list -i /dev/stdin $list

At least the meta and wikitech pages should link to each other in prominent places. Or maybe they can just be merged into a single thing with "for users" and "for admins" sections (some people are both!). It's not even clear to me why it has to be split between meta and wikitech.

In T109534#1551772, @Dzahn wrote:

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It's not even clear to me why it has to be split between meta and wikitech.

I think there are three audiences for 'mailing list' documentation.... the users (readers), the admins (moderators), and the technical support people (operations, ???). Some people could span all these roles.

Ideally it would be easy to find for all :-) (Where is not as important as the ability to find it and/or know it exists.)

Cheers, Richard.

i made some changes on the wikitech page, replacing "sodium" with "fermium, some lighttpd stuff with Apache...

as always with "fix docs on wiki"-tickets they are open-ended

Looking over this a bit more. I'm going to try and get this done over the weekend starting Friday.

I'm also going to aim to get https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Standardization up to standard and get it out of a draft into a technical policy seeing as we have inconsistencies in list (even new ones!).

Wikitech documentation seems done to me now!

Going to work on Meta-Wiki docs and see what I can spin up from there.

Meta-Wiki is done.

The blocker for this now (in my opinion) is proposing a new https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Standardization and then putting it for a community review. Since we can't really block meta-tech work on a community consensus, I'll close this ticket once a new draft goes up.