GENDER support needed for 'user' in 3 messages:
URL: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Botpasswords-deleted-body/en
URL: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Botpasswords-updated-body/en
URL: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Botpasswords-created-body/en
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| Add GENDER where strings could differ | mediawiki/core | master | +3 -3 |
Not sure for "Botpasswords" issues, which component should be used instead of MediaWiki-General? MediaWiki-Special-pages? MediaWiki-Core-AuthManager? MediaWiki-User-login-and-signup?
By searching via Special:Translations, I found that those messages are actually faceing-to-faceing grammatical gender issues:
Well, the message directly references the user (“user "$2"”), who could obviously be he or she (even in English, you have e.g. actor and actress, in other languages, this is the basic case for (almost) all words). That is quite a basic case of “genderization needed”.
How so? Isn't user a generic term, gender neutral, and $2 the username of the user? Seems like this is an invalid task. Can you check on this @D3r1ck01 because if it's invalid, we need to remove it from Google-Code-in-2017
@MtDu, just checking the language file now and seeing that these messages indeed may not need GENDER support as now it returns just the username and bot name in a special statement. In case there is no username, the statement won't quite make sense as there won't be a bot name, what do you think? Bot is kinda tied to the user, is that the case?
Original message;
The bot password for bot name "$1" of user "$2" was deleted.
Some possible examples;
The bot password for bot name "A" of user "X" was deleted.
Looking at the above example, gender neutral may not work there. @Macofe, can you give any use case?
Correct me if I am wrong!
Well, sure, in English, “user” is a “generic term, gender neutral”. But we are talking about localization to other languages, right? And there are languages other than English, where there is no such thing as a “gender-neutral user”. If you need a specific example, take Czech: A male user is “uživatel”, a female user is “uživatelka”. So, the message in Czech needs to be e.g.
Heslo pro bota jménem „$1“ {{GENDER:$2|uživatele|uživatelky}} „$2“ bylo smazáno.
(Theoretically, you could say even the bots might have different genders as well, and genderize even $1, but we could live without that, I guess.)
Ah I see @Mormegil. My apologies. Just wanted to ensure this task was valid. I'll take a look this weekend and maybe sign up to mentor it as well!
I'm not exactly sure what should be done about this task. If I undestand it correctly, there should be added GENDER macros to internationalization strings so that the translatewiki will give people the ability to internationalizate these strings, right?
Change 394761 had a related patch set uploaded (by Albert221; owner: Albert221):
[mediawiki/core@master] Add GENDER where strings could differ
Change 394761 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/core@master] Add GENDER where strings could differ
Thanks @Albert221 for working on this and thanks @Bawolff for merging! Marking as resolved and @Albert221, your submission has been approved on GCI. Thank you. Keep it up.