We'd like to post the notifications survey to all French wikis. Use the same tool we created for T128937, with the same targeting: users with 1 unread notifications and at least 100 lifetime edits.
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We'd like to post the notifications survey to all French wikis. Use the same tool we created for T128937, with the same targeting: users with 1 unread notifications and at least 100 lifetime edits.
French text and URL will be aded shortly.
One thing: for the French version, can we please make the following little adjustment? (copied from T128937 )
The invitation panel includes a ? (Information) icon. The icon has a highlight state, and holding the hover brings up an informational message about the invitation. But if a user CLICKS on the icon, the message never appears -- even if the user continues to hold the hover after clicking. I'd submit that clicking on this icon is a pretty natural impulse.....Can we make it so that the info message will appear on hover and/or click?
Here's the URL for the French survey: https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_eRMpgEPhVcUEkn3&Q_Language=FR
--I haven't translated the invitation. Does anyone can sent me the source? Thanks!-- Got it, done.
And here is the invitation panel text in French (Thanks Benoit).
Main invitation
Information link text:
This needs to be enabled in production for the relevant wikis, I have no access. Ping @Catrope on this
The text should be translateable in translate-wiki, and the URL is a wiki-specific configuration option that should be added when the feature is enabled on the French wiki itself.
We should be ready to go with this, we just need someone to actively go into production and apply the setting.
The text should be translateable in translate-wiki
Does that mean we can't use the translation Benoit provided, above? I'd feel more comfortable knowing he'd reviewed the copy.
Per @Mooeypoo and discussion at standup, normally we just rely on the translatewiki.net translations. Mostly these are done by volunteers, though occasionally staff will also help out.
The current French translation in the code is:
"echo-popup-footer-feedback": "<strong>Donner un avis</strong>. [$2 $1]", "echo-popup-footer-feedback-survey": "Répondre à ce sondage rapide sur les notifications.", "echo-popup-footer-feedback-info": "Ce lien d’avis est conçu pour aider les développeurs à en savoir plus sur comment les gens utilisent les notifications, afin que nous puissions continuer à améliorer l’outil. Cliquer sur le lien du sondage vous amènera sur le site web d’un tiers.",
We could talk about overriding this, though I'm not sure we want to do that unless it's not a good translation.
Matt writes:
The current French translation in the code is:
"echo-popup-footer-feedback-survey": "Répondre à ce sondage rapide sur les notifications.",
"echo-popup-footer-feedback-info": "Ce lien d’avis est conçu pour aider les développeurs à en savoir plus sur comment les gens utilisent les notifications, afin que nous puissions continuer à améliorer l’outil. Cliquer sur le lien du sondage vous amènera sur le site web d’un tiers.",We could talk about overriding this, though I'm not sure we want to do that unless it's not a good translation.
@Trizek-WMF, what do you think? Is that language OK to put in the invitation panel? Or do you want to change it?
Yeah, I've updated it on translatewiki.net. The bot should come along and commit it to the git repository in a while (the FAQ says 1-2 days), then within 1 day of that it should be deployed to production.
So in 2-3 days, the new translation will be in production and we can enable French.
Or 1 day in reality apparently: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Echo-popup-footer-feedback-survey
Ideally, this would use the UI language, not a fixed URL per-wiki (which basically means content language). But not a blocker.
Change 282414 had a related patch set uploaded (by Mattflaschen):
Enable Echo survey on French-language wikis
Sorry for not updating here. I had this reverted because rendering problems became apparent after the SWAT (text truncated and buttons hidden). I was able to fix those just by cherry-picking, but that still leaves T132384: Scrolling on the Echo survey's popup/tooltip.
Change 283330 had a related patch set uploaded (by Mattflaschen):
Enable Echo survey on French-language wikis (retry)
We decided at standup today T132384: Scrolling on the Echo survey's popup/tooltip was not a blocker, so we'll deploy it again today at 4 PM Pacific.
Change 283330 merged by jenkins-bot:
Enable Echo survey on French-language wikis (retry)
Mentioned in SAL [2016-04-13T23:46:13Z] <dereckson@tin> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: Enable Echo survey on French-language wikis (Task T131893, [[Gerrit:283330]]) (duration: 00m 26s)
Checked locally - several restriction should be met to enable the notification survey.
[minor] (some afterthought notes) The text formatting is rather tight; Many languages require more space than English.
vs English
Elena write:
...The text formatting is rather tight
She's right about that. Since we are planning to re-use this, it's worth a little more attention, I think. I'm not worried about the rollover text. But @Mattflaschen, on the main invitation panel, would it be possible to increase the line spacing (the space between lines) a touch, while leaving the padding around the text the same?
Change 284099 had a related patch set uploaded (by Mattflaschen):
Increase line-height for survey to 16px
line-height seems to also affect the space below the bottom. It's not too noticeable, though. I'll post a patch and screenshot.
Jonathan would like to close the French survey. Can someone please back the invitation off the Notifications panel? @Mattflaschen? @Catrope? Thanks. After that, we can close this ticket.
Change 284831 had a related patch set uploaded (by Mattflaschen):
Disable Echo survey on French wikis
Yes. We can't do it today, since there are no deployments this week. But I've scheduled it for Monday 4 PM Pacific.