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Consider archiving #MediaWiki-Documentation in favour of single #Documentation
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We have Documentation tag.

Then we have tasks tagged MediaWiki-Documentation.
And they are also tagged with Documentation.

Seems it would make a sense to have a single tag for tasks about documentation only.

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Danny_B moved this task from Incoming to Projects to archive on the Project-Admins board.

I would look at it going the other wise and look at removing the generic #documentation tag usage where possible.

People that are interested in watching relevant tasks (example: #pywikibot documentation/#mediawiki documentation) will want to watch the smaller more dedicated projects compared the generic #documentation tag that for an example has ~450 tags alone in its incoming/triage column and a lot of these would be irreverent for these people and would generate unwanted emails for people that want to watch etc.

I would start by de-activating {H11}, There isn't any need to double tag these tasks. and keep #documentation for the tasks that don't fall under the dedicated documentation subtasks.

If people want to see all documentation tasks they could always do a search etc.

In response to @Peachey88 's proposal: the opposite could just as well be said.

Those who are interested in working on specific project documentation could easily search for the two tags (say, Pywikibot and Documentation ).

I usually prefer combining two generic tags in a search and taking the intersection, instead of creating gazillions of very specialized tags.

I usually prefer combining two generic tags in a search and taking the intersection, instead of creating gazillions of very specialized tags.

This. Please. Dear lord. Can we clean up the unmanageable pile of #MediaWiki-SomeRandomThing

In response to @Peachey88 's proposal: the opposite could just as well be said.

Those who are interested in working on specific project documentation could easily search for the two tags (say, Pywikibot and Documentation ).

That works for search, yes. But is it possible to subscribe to an intersection of tags? Right now I can subscribe to #MediaWiki-SomeRandomThing and get emails for all those tasks - is it still possible once the tag is split?

I agree with @Legoktm, I'm interested in Pywikibot-Documentation, but I don't want to be flooded by tasks from MediaWiki-Documentation. Maybe the Documentation is the one we should close in favor of the more specific two (but first analyze its content)

Dvorapa closed this task as Declined.EditedMay 27 2018, 2:03 PM

Unless we could have separate workboards and members/watchers under Documentation, this should be declined. The same for #rfc, I18n, etc.

Maybe simple MediaWiki-Documentation should be considered to be merged into Documentation instead?

See T142345#3655080. (High-level: We can likely repeat any on-wiki category discussions communities already had (having "Female writer" vs "Female" × "Writer").

Maybe simple Documentation should be considered to be archived in the future instead?

As a small and non-definitive gesture towards considering this, I've disabled the herald rule that hard-enforced addition of Documentation to other projects. (H11)

I usually prefer combining two generic tags in a search and taking the intersection, instead of creating gazillions of very specialized tags.

The difference between MediaWiki-Categories + Documentation search and MediaWiki-Categories + MediaWiki-Documentation search seems too little to me. You could consider to merge MediaWiki-Documentation and Documentation as pywikibot does not need Documentation at all.

I removed the Pywikibot part as we have no interest in merging. The discussion about mediawiki and documentation can continue here.

Dvorapa renamed this task from Consider archiving #MediaWiki-Documentation & #Pywikibot-documentation in favour of single #Documentation to Consider archiving #MediaWiki-Documentation in favour of single #Documentation.May 29 2018, 1:26 PM
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That works for search, yes. But is it possible to subscribe to an intersection of tags? Right now I can subscribe to #MediaWiki-SomeRandomThing and get emails for all those tasks - is it still possible once the tag is split?

With a Herald rule. Not super intuitive though.

At a minumum the project descriptions should make it clear which to use when.

It feels to me like this is blocked on T76942...