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Allow Wikidata's P402 (OpenStreetMap Relation identifier) to be used in Kartographer
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If an object isn't specified in a <mapframe/>, an OSM relation could be automatically pulled from Wikidata (property P402) by using the Wikidata ID of the page, with an option to turn this off.

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Jc86035 created this task.Sep 10 2016, 4:08 PM
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Yurik moved this task from Unsorted to General on the Maps (Kartographer) board.Sep 15 2016, 5:06 PM

Please, don't use Property P402 !!!
We show it on WIWOSM [1] project that we don't need it to link from Kartographer to an geometry in OSM.
We can use Wikipedia and Wikidata-Tags in OSM and are so more flexible to suport also points and lines without and relation-id. The relation ID's in OSM are not stable.
so please change Kartograher to support OSM data without P402.

[1]https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WIWOSM

MaxSem closed this task as Declined.Oct 31 2016, 8:01 PM
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We can't use OSM ids because they're not guaranteed to be stable, unlike Wikidata ids. We already have integration the other way around - with OSM's wikidata tag and will continue improving it.

If https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P402 is unstable, we should delete that.

Yurik added a comment.Nov 2 2016, 4:56 PM

@Esc3300 I personally agree, and apparently there has been a number of discussions about that - see the talk page.

Jc86035 added a comment.EditedNov 5 2016, 2:28 PM

I agree that it's not necessary to have the same information in both OSM and Wikidata, especially where P402 is (slightly) more likely to become inaccurate (e.g. when a transport service is deleted because it no longer exists and Wikidata isn't updated). I've started a deletion discussion here.

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@Liuxinyu970226, please don't hijack this ticket and especially don't remove tags that are obvioulsy relevant. Feel free to create a separate ticket for the community wishlist item.

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