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Do not block talk page access by default when setting a local block on Meta
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When you set a global block, the interface lets you to optionally set a local global block on Meta-Wiki as well. That's good, however it always blocks talk page access, making appeals impossible. The local block set by globalblock on Meta should not block talk page editting by default. Thank you.

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Related Gerrit Patches:
mediawiki/extensions/GlobalBlocking : masterDo not block talk page locally by default

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MarcoAurelio renamed this task from Do not block talk page access by default when setting a local block on Meta. to Do not block talk page access by default when setting a local block on Meta.Sep 20 2016, 6:44 AM
MarcoAurelio updated the task description. (Show Details)

My impression was that the Meta Wiki block here is used to prevent appeals/edits when they have no chance of ending well. Is there a need for a three layer (blocked everywhere but Meta - blocked everywhere but Meta user talk pages - blocked everywhere) system over the two layer one which seems to be the current system (blocked everywhere but Meta - blocked everywhere)?

I think the current system works just fine with the exception of this
issue. There's no need to complicate things further.

Speaking as of myself, I only block talk page access when it is abused or
there's credible evidence that it'll be abused and I think my fellow
stewards should do the same. In practice, I'm sure most do set a local
block on Meta and are not aware that they're totally blocking all means of
communication. In case of abuse, it takes a few clicks to modify the block
settings or temporary protecting the talk page.

Another thing is that I think global blocks should apply to Meta by default
too, with globally blocked IPs being able to edit their talk pages unless
abused. But that's for another task and I'll have to check first with my
colleagues.

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Change 569381 had a related patch set uploaded (by Urbanecm; owner: Urbanecm):
[mediawiki/extensions/GlobalBlocking@master] Do not block talk page locally by default

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/569381