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Annotations in VisualEditor
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The problem

  • Annotations/comments would greatly improve the way of collaboration for wiki editors, at least in self-installed MW instances
  • There have been initiatives, but the projects have not been pursued
  • It is unclear how annotations fit into the overall editing/collaboration experience

Expected outcome

  • Get a picture of how annotations fit into our vision of future collaboration experience
  • Find a implementation strategy
  • Maybe revive Annotator extension

Current status of the discussion



Event Timeline

Mglaser created this task.Oct 11 2016, 9:35 PM
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dchan added a subscriber: dchan.EditedOct 20 2016, 11:31 PM

This is a great topic for discussion! But please can we call it something other than "Annotations"? How about "Remarks"?

We use the word "annotations" very heavily in the VisualEditor codebase to mean the styling applied to bits of text (bold, links etc; see ). It will make our job really difficult if we have to talk about, say, annotations within annotations inside annotations (e.g. italic links in a remark). The codebase also uses "comments" (less heavily) to refer to HTML comments.

Mglaser closed this task as Declined.Nov 3 2016, 10:23 AM

Closing this as I will not attend the summit.

Mglaser reopened this task as Open.Nov 4 2016, 3:25 PM
Mglaser reassigned this task from Mglaser to MarkAHershberger.
Mglaser added a subscriber: MarkAHershberger.

Reopening this task as @MarkAHershberger can take over.

Jdforrester-WMF set the point value for this task to 0.

That's something that have been in a discussion on the wikisource-ml to.

Such a feature should in fact be merged on a larger project which enable to switch misc. comments, like {{refnec}} boxes and so on. This way one may go into a "clean readable version". But if the function should be heavily used, it wouldn't make sense to include this comments directly in the article, unlike {{refnec}}. This would require both

  • an UX design, to enable to pick which comments should be displayed, according to categories, authors and so on
  • a software integration design, to determine where and how data should be stored and processed
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Tgr added a subscriber: Tgr.Dec 23 2016, 3:07 AM

Seems to be pretty much the same as T149667: Amazing Article Annotations?

Ping to anyone subscribing that a closely related session has been proposed as an unconference session today (under Annotations / T151958)

MarcoAurelio closed this task as Declined.Mar 21 2018, 12:46 PM
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Declining per T189753: Archive the Annotator extension. The extension is no longer maintained and has been archived.

Trizek-WMF reopened this task as Open.Mar 21 2018, 6:32 PM

@MarcoAurelio, does abandonning Annotator automatically leads to the abandon of the idea expressed in that task? I don't think so. That task can IMHO remain opened to track the idea.

Trizek-WMF updated the task description. (Show Details)Mar 21 2018, 6:33 PM

You can certainly keep the idea, but it won't be fixed on Annotator, hence the task was declined.

Deskana closed this task as Declined.Apr 12 2018, 12:45 PM
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It's also not going to be fixed by the Editing team, which is why it's been in "External and Administrivia" for one and a half years. I've removed my tag, but now the only tag left on it is the archived Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017) tag, so it seems better to me to decline the task rather than leave it floating around as an orphan.

Please do feel free to revert my closure if you want to, but I think you would also need to find a place for the task to go if you do that. :-)