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Make it easy to transwiki fair-use images out of Commons to another wiki
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Images that are not free, but probably acceptable under fair use rules, get uploaded to Commons. Moving those back to the wiki where they're used is harder than it needs to be.

Proposed solution:

The admins get a 'transwiki this fair use file' button that sends files where they're likely to be accepted.

Critical features

  • Restrict this to Commons' admins. The tool will not only copy the file to appropriate project(s), but also delete it from Commons at the end.
  • It should "know" which wikis accept fair-use files, and only transwiki files to those wikis (e.g., a setting for the English Wikipedia, but not for the Haitian Creole Wikipedia).
  • The edit summary must indicate that a script was used to transwiki the file from Commons (with link to an explanatory page?), so that local wikis don't expect the Commons admin to speak their language.
  • The file must be flagged for local review. Transwiki'd files should be tagged or categorized on each of those local wikis, so that the local editors and admins can process it. (Ideally, this would be configurable locally, so Commons admins can change it whenever they want – perhaps a system similar to w:en:MediaWiki:Citoid-template-type-map.json that identifies templates and/or categories to add?)

Nice to have

  • It should save admins time by trying to "guess" which wiki wants this file, based upon current file use.
  • It should know who the uploader is, and leave a message (Twinkle-style) for the uploader at the target project (not at Commons, or at least not only at Commons) about the file being transwiki'd. However, the admin needs to be able to override what user is notified (e.g., "That's a bot, so skip it"), or to specify more than one person/account.
  • The admin can override the templates or choose from a list of fair-use rationale templates at each wiki (e.g., this file is album artwork, that file is a corporate logo).

Event Timeline

Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. · View Herald TranscriptOct 17 2016, 5:52 PM

I'm picturing a system that effectively produces results similar to this:

  • This was a cross-wiki upload from the English Wikipedia by WhatamIdoing. It is used at the English Wikipedia. Would you like to transwiki it to the English Wikipedia, tag it with {{subst:nrd}}, and leave a note on WhatamIdoing's talk page at the English Wikipedia?
  • This was a cross-wiki upload from Meta by WhatamIdoing. It is not used at any project that accepts fair use. Would you like to delete it now and leave a note on WhatamIdoing's talk page at Meta?
  • This was a cross-wiki upload from Meta by WhatamIdoing. It's used at two wikis that accept fair use. Would you like to transwiki to the English Wikipedia and French Wikipedia and leave a note on WhatamIdoing's talk page at both of those wikis?

(Of course, that's not really the UI you want, but that's the logic I want to see.)

Restricted Application added subscribers: Poyekhali, Matanya. · View Herald TranscriptOct 17 2016, 5:53 PM
Revent added a comment.EditedNov 11 2016, 5:15 PM

Since a fair number of deletions are handled from DR pages, it would be particularly nice to 'hook' this into DelReqHandler, so that a deleting admin is prompted (if deleting from that page) that transfers to fair-use wikis might be appropriate.

The tool should also, I think, specifically disregard usages that are not in a 'main namespace'.

Yann added a subscriber: Yann.Nov 11 2016, 5:17 PM
Nick added a subscriber: Nick.EditedNov 11 2016, 6:02 PM

The tool also needs to ensure the original uploader and not the transwiki-ing administrator receives notifications should the fair use rationale be incorrect, the file become unused or other issues with the file occur.

In short, it needs to keep the uploader data unchanged during the transwiki process.

Reguyla added a subscriber: Reguyla.EditedNov 11 2016, 10:15 PM

I think this is a great idea and would be a very useful new tool. For my 2 cents, I think it might be beneficial to provide the devs the top 3-5 wiki's where they images come from to start with. My guess is The German and English Wikipedia's to start.

That would be a more digestible and attainable goal as they develop the tool. To account for every wiki and the associated rules is probably unrealistic.

We probably should also identify what those rules are up front so the devs can spend less time digging for requirements.

MarkTraceur triaged this task as Medium priority.Nov 28 2016, 5:30 PM
MarkTraceur moved this task from Untriaged to Desired epics on the Multimedia board.
Base added a subscriber: Base.Dec 21 2016, 12:48 PM
Aklapper renamed this task from Make it easy to transwiki fair-use images out of Commons to Make it easy to transwiki fair-use images out of Commons to another wiki.Apr 2 2020, 1:21 PM
Aklapper lowered the priority of this task from Medium to Low.
Aklapper removed a subscriber: Reguyla.
Base added a comment.Apr 2 2020, 1:57 PM

I do not understand the problem. If file was uploaded to some XX Wikipedia and then moved to Commons, to be subsequently deleted on Commons, as it is fair use, you do not need to move the file back to XX Wikipedia. You need to *restore* the original file deleted when it was moved to Commons. This does not really call for any fancy features. What am I missing?