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Convert video imports to open format
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Globally, video traffic was 70% of the internet's traffic in 2015, and predicted to be 82% by 2020. [1]

The world is increasingly consuming video, not just for entertainment, but also for learning and gaining knowledge. Video is also a format that can be created neutral of language, with subtitles overlaid in any language later. There are a lot of reasons to make video content more useful and usable.

It's very difficult to upload video to Commons because you must use a free format for uploading and saving. We should allow contributors to upload videos in non-free formats and then convert them to webm and/or ogg as we prefer. Because this import is difficult, it's likely that video creators are going to other non-free sites to publish their videos. If it was easier to upload and then have the videos in free formats, this wouldn't be an issue and we would have more content and more contributors to the project and in the world, free and open.

I imagine the Internet Archive's conversion tool (as mentioned on Commons' help page) is open-source and could be used as a starting point.

[1] http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/service-provider/visual-networking-index-vni/complete-white-paper-c11-481360.html

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atgo created this task.Jan 26 2017, 7:52 PM
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zhuyifei1999 added a subscriber: zhuyifei1999.EditedJan 26 2017, 8:02 PM

Well, there are two tools developed exactly for this purpose ;)

atgo added a comment.Jan 26 2017, 9:56 PM

@zhuyifei1999 that's awesome! is there a reason these aren't part of the commons upload? more steps for a task means way more attrition.

Also, neither of those are linked here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Converting_video

Which is the page that you get when you try to upload a closed format.

(I'll try to be as fair as possible, but since I'm the creator and maintainer of video2commons it's hard to be unbiased.)

is there a reason these aren't part of the commons upload? more steps for a task means way more attrition.

Videoconvert by @Prolineserver, well, as far as I know, has never published its source code. It was asked in June, but no response. Closed-source is probably not going into production.

Video2commons is in a different situation. The reason it's difficult to port it into a production service is more technical. While it is open-source, its dependencies (pip packages) aren't exactly the type supported by Wikimedia. Wikimedia's usual deployment schedule is also difficult to work with, considering the long-running transcoding processes. (And there are tons of bugs to solve.)

Also, neither of those are linked here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Converting_video

Videoconvert is. As for video2commons, I'm more of a coder, not a salesperson. There are still many people who use this tool. Feel free to edit the page if you wish.

Which is the page that you get when you try to upload a closed format.

Oh is it? I didn't know that.

atgo added a comment.Jan 26 2017, 11:03 PM

Thanks @ zhuyifei1999 for the explanation. I think the task as described is
still valid :)