|Resolved||Lydia_Pintscher||T146637 Wikidata 2016 Q4 goals|
|Resolved||daniel||T121274 Provide an RDF mapping for external identifiers|
|Open||None||T150939 Replace https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-externalid-url by providing improved handling for external id formatter urls|
|Declined||ArthurPSmith||T160205 Add interstitial to wikidata-externalid-url|
@Dispenser, ok the issue is that people clicking an "external id" link are going to an external site? Is there any situation in which it is not obvious this is going to an external website? Every wikidata item with "external id" values has links directly to third party sites, without any interstitial or warning other than that it is external. I don't see the harm or potential for anybody's expectations of privacy to be violated.
@ArthurPSmith I didn't make the rule, just making sure its enforced.
- English is not universal. Even so Wikidata ExternalId URL could reasonably be the name of a tool describing information at the URL.
- Reusers shouldn't need to special case their interstitial for your tool.
Hmm, I think the big issue may be point 3. Do you have an example where this might have come up? I could certainly make it an interstitial easily enough, but that makes these links a bit less convenient for people (extra click); if the links are being included with or without a warning elsewhere based on the wmflabs URL then I can see how it may be important to address this somehow. Also is there boilerplate text we should use if we really do need to put this in?
Hmm, Ok, I read through the discussion you linked with @coren - I certainly see there can be a privacy violation regarding expectations in cases as were discussed there. I think this is a quite different case though (for example, the links are exclusively to third-party sites, not anything I or any other WMF person controls) and would like to hear directly from somebody with WMF (and some voices from wikidata) on this. If there is a clearly posted policy somewhere that would be great too. The policy linked by @coren focused on the Labs user collecting personal information, which is not at all happening here, and said nothing specifically about redirects per se.
The problem with *me* adding an interstitial is it's going to be in English and it's going to be specific to this linking tool - what would be better would be to have some way to return the correctly resolved URL to the re-user in the first place, or to have the re-user apply its own interstitial. The first would I think require either some reworking of wikidata external ID handling, or an API version of the service (but re-users would still need to know to call the API!?). The second - well maybe links to wmflabs shouldn't be trusted to preserve privacy from general WMF clients? Or a specific carve-out for these URL's of course.