| Requirement | Status |
|---|---|
| Option to switch between source and visual editing modes, w/o losing changes | ✅ |
| Prompt to choose between source and visual editing modes when opening the editor for the first time | ✅ |
| In preferences, option to opt-out of the visual editing mode, so only one edit tab is shown | ✅ |
| In preferences, option to make visual editing mode your preferred option. | Not needed per T161365#5849523 |
| Clicking "Edit" should open the visual editing mode | ✅ |
| Clicking "Edit source" should open the source editor mode | ✅ |
| Anonymous users should be able to access visual editing mode in the same ways as logged in users (e.g. switching, two edit tabs) | ✅ |
| Visual editing mode should be available on article pages, and in the User, Wikipedia and Help namespace. | ✅ |
| Visual editing mode should NOT be available on discussion pages. | ✅ |
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| Status | Subtype | Assigned | Task | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Open | None | T52000 Enable VisualEditor by default for all users of all Wikimedia wikis | |||
| Open | None | T51999 Enable VisualEditor by default for all users of all Wikipedias | |||
| Resolved | Whatamidoing-WMF | T161365 Enable VisualEditor by default for all users of the Dutch Wikipedia | |||
| Resolved | Esanders | T107745 Come up with an alternative to having multiple slugs (invitations to add a paragraph) next to each other that preserves editing capabilities |
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Change 566866 had a related patch set uploaded (by Jforrester; owner: Jforrester):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] [nlwiki] Enable VisualEditor by default for all users
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Change 566866 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] [nlwiki] Enable VisualEditor by default for all users
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Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2020-02-04T00:06:15Z] <jforrester@deploy1001> Synchronized dblists/visualeditor-nondefault.dblist: [nlwiki] Enable VisualEditor by default for all users T161365 (duration: 00m 58s)
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Thank you for your help on this, @Jdforrester-WMF; I reviewed nl.wiki's requirements [1] and it seems there are two pieces of unexpected behavior and one behavior that we need more details about before we can test.
Unexpected behavior
- In preferences, option to make visual editing mode your preferred option: ⚠️There doesn't seem to be an "Edit mode" dropdown in Preferences > Editing on nl.wiki as there is on en.wiki
- Visual editing mode should be available on article pages, and in the User, Wikipedia and Help namespace: ⚠️Visual editing mode does not seem to be enabled in the Wikipedia namespace [2]
Behavior needing more details
- Visual editing mode should NOT be available on consultation pages: Pending confirmation from @Whatamidoing-WMF
Full requirements [1]
| Requirement | Status |
|---|---|
| Option to switch between source and visual editing modes, w/o losing changes | ✅ |
| Prompt to choose between source and visual editing modes when opening the editor for the first time | ✅ |
| In preferences, option to opt-out of the visual editing mode, so only one edit tab is shown | ✅ |
| In preferences, option to make visual editing mode your preferred option. | ⚠️There doesn't seem to be an "Edit mode" dropdown in Preferences > Editing on nl.wiki as there is on en.wiki |
| Clicking "Edit" should open the visual editing mode | ✅ |
| Clicking "Edit source" should open the source editor mode | ✅ |
| Anonymous users should be able to access visual editing mode in the same ways as logged in users (e.g. switching, two edit tabs) | ✅ |
| Visual editing mode should be available on article pages, and in the User, Wikipedia and Help namespace. | ⚠️Visual editing mode does not seem to be enabled in the Wikipedia namespace [2] |
| Visual editing mode should NOT be available on consultation pages. | Pending confirmation from @Whatamidoing-WMF |
- https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Opinielokaal/Inschakelen_visuele_tekstverwerker
- I'm not seeing two edit tabs enabled on this page: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Beginnetje. Note: I am logged in and the "Temporarily disable visual word processor as long as it is in beta" editing preference is disabled.
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There isn't an "Edit mode" dropdown because it's not a https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Single_edit_tab wiki. We set those up for a while. It was okay-but-not-great, so the team put the project down for a bit, with the idea of getting back to it later/with the benefit of a little more distance/perspective/time to think it over. Nothing's happened since then.
The Dutch Wikipedia has the (older) system that's used at the German Wikipedia: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Einstellungen#mw-prefsection-editing
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The community vote specified enabling it in the Wikipedia: (Project:) namespace, so that should be corrected. See also T164435 and T159711, which are older requests for that change.
It should not be enabled on discussion pages (e.g., Overleg_Wikipedia: or Project_talk:). This part of the config is already correct.
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Change 570419 had a related patch set uploaded (by Jforrester; owner: Jforrester):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] [nlwiki] Enable VisualEditor in the Project namespace
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Change 570419 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] [nlwiki] Enable VisualEditor in the Project namespace
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Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2020-02-06T23:22:42Z] <jforrester@deploy1001> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: T159711 T161365 T164435 [nlwiki] Enable VisualEditor in the Project namespace (duration: 01m 08s)
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Ah, understood. Thank you for clarifying, Sherry.
I've updated the task description to include, what I currently understand to be, the requirements the nl.wiki defined and whether those requirements have been met or not.
Next step
- @Whatamidoing-WMF, can you please confirm whether the requirements and their corresponding statuses listed in the task description are accurate?