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In fr.wikipedia MW 1.29.0-wmf.21 (29800e6) do not show the right Popups gadget nor the Hovercards Beta Feature
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The Popups gadget, T164044 Navigational popups and page previews, is usefull to see a short description, and use some features, when any user mouse-flying upon links, without clic upon links, in many pages.
Then it becomes the Hovercards Beta Feature T70860.

The right and attended feature is the display of a pop-up short description.

To see this task we can compare in 2 wikis this Popups gadget.
To see this task we can also compare in 2 wikis this Hovercards Beta Feature.

You can compare in fr.wikipedia and in fr.wikisource or other languages. In each:
In your preferences, desactivate and valid, then activate and valid the Popups gadget (or the Hovercards Beta Feature)
Then try to "fly the mouse" = "hovercraft" without clic upon links.

In the last MediaWiki 1.29.0-wmf.21 (29800e6) the feature run right like attended in fr.wikisource but not in fr.wikipedia.

Event Timeline

Rical created this task.May 5 2017, 7:41 AM
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Aklapper changed the task status from Open to Stalled.May 5 2017, 10:13 AM

In general, please always provide a list of steps to reproduce the problem, step by step, with URLs.
I guess that

at some point. I do not know in which order, and what the Expected Results and Actual Results are. Please describe them in separate sections.

Rical renamed this task from MediaWiki 1.29.0-wmf.21 (29800e6) don't use Popups gadget and beta in fr.wikipedia to In fr.wikipedia MW 1.29.0-wmf.21 (29800e6) the Popups gadget and the Hovercards Beta Feature do not work.May 5 2017, 3:03 PM
Rical updated the task description. (Show Details)
Aklapper changed the task status from Stalled to Open.May 7 2017, 9:39 AM

The task description is still not explaining what the actual results and expected results are... For future reference, "do not work" or "worked fine" is not enough information as it does not describe what happens and what should happen instead. Anyway:

Steps to reproduce:

Expected results:
Consistent displaying of either the local gadget or the beta feature when putting the mouse pointer over links
Actual results:
Only on some articles the gadget popup is displayed when putting the mouse pointer over links:


Rical renamed this task from In fr.wikipedia MW 1.29.0-wmf.21 (29800e6) the Popups gadget and the Hovercards Beta Feature do not work to In fr.wikipedia MW 1.29.0-wmf.21 (29800e6) do not show the right Popups gadget nor the Hovercards Beta Feature.May 7 2017, 8:00 PM
Rical updated the task description. (Show Details)

I'm not sure I understand the problem here.
Popups extension is currently disabled on Wikisource (see T147553).
On French Wikipedia the gadget if enabled will override the Popups extension.

Everything appears to be behaving as expected here.

ovasileva closed this task as Invalid.May 8 2017, 1:39 PM

Tested this and I seem to be observing the correct behavior. @Aklapper, @Rical - please re-open if you are noticing something different.

  1. Log-in to frwiki
  2. Enable the page previews beta feature (Aperçus de page)
  3. Go to any article and hover over a link

Expected behavior: page previews appear for hovered links
Observed behavior: as expected

  1. Go to the gadgets tab and enable navigational popups (popups)
  2. Go to any article and hover over a link

Expected behavior: navigational popups appear for hovered links

NOTE: this behavior is not replicated on wikisource. As pages on wikisource do not have a first paragraph, page previews (Aperçus de page) do not appear correctly and will be removed from beta features soon (see T164740: Disable page previews on projects where implementation isn't optimal for more detail. The popups gadget, however, still displays in wikisource.
Rical added a comment.May 8 2017, 9:57 PM

Today, and waiting 20 to 30 seconds after activation in my case, the Popups gadget or the feature run as expected in wikipedia and wikisource. This delay explains perhaps my tests results and depend probably of the charge of servers.

The "page preview" unavailable in wikisource is the edit panel with a button to clic to try some changes. Wikisource replace that by a dedicated comparator with the picture of each page of a book in the namespace Page:

The namespace Page: is not available for simple readers of books. Then it cannot disturb them.
Also the Popups gadget and the feature are usefull for correctors who correct or verify hundreds pages each day and discuss about their works and look at their watchlists.

Then the Popups gadget and the feature are a treasure to preserve the efficiency of admins and correctors, without bother simple readers.

Rical removed a subscriber: Rical.Jul 21 2017, 10:43 AM