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Create several (sub)projects for Wikimedia Venezuela
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Hi!

We need several (sub)projects, listed here:

Subprojects (in Wikimedia-Venezuela):

  • WMVE-GLAM
    • Description: Coordinate Wikimedia Venezuela's GLAM Program
  • WMVE-WEP
    • Description: Coordinate Wikimedia Venezuela's Education Program

Projects:

  • #wikimedia-ve-tech
    • Description: Coordinate technnical tasks in Wikimedia Venezuela' Servers
    • Type: Group
    • Project policies: can edit/join: allow members of #wikimedia-ve-tech

Milestones:

  • #WMVE-S2-2017
    • Start date: 06-15-2017
    • End date: 12-15-2017

Changes in Wikimedia-Venezuela

  • Project policies:
    • Can edit: All users
    • Can join: All users

For #wikimedia-ve-tech: We need change the push/edit policies in rWMVE from Wikimedia-Venezuela to #wikimedia-ve-tech. (I create other task for this)

Many thanks in advance!

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Galahad created this task.Jun 11 2017, 4:12 AM
Galahad updated the task description. (Show Details)
Galahad created subtask T167585: Modify rWMVE.Jun 11 2017, 4:16 AM
MarcoAurelio moved this task from Incoming to Projects to create on the Project-Admins board.Jun 11 2017, 12:28 PM
MarcoAurelio subscribed.Jun 11 2017, 12:32 PM

Projects:

  • #wikimedia-ve-tech
    • Description: Coordinate technnical tasks in Wikimedia Venezuela' Servers
    • Type: Group
    • Project policies: ACL Project (can edit/join: Allow members of #wikimedia-ve-tech)

Then it should be acl*Wikimedia-VE-Tech or acl*WMVE-Tech IMHO.

MarcoAurelio added a project: Phabricator.Jun 11 2017, 12:33 PM

Adding Phabricator as only admins can create ACLs, as the options for that are locked for regular users.

MarcoAurelio moved this task from To Triage to Administration (UI) on the Phabricator board.Jun 11 2017, 12:33 PM
MarcoAurelio added a subscriber: • mmodell.

WRT subprojects, once you create them, all members of Wikimedia-Venezuela will be moved to the subprojects. Maybe you'd prefer milestones or separate projects. @mmodell can advice here I think.

Galahad added a comment.Jun 11 2017, 6:01 PM
In T167584#3337878, @MarcoAurelio wrote:

Projects:

  • #wikimedia-ve-tech
    • Description: Coordinate technnical tasks in Wikimedia Venezuela' Servers
    • Type: Group
    • Project policies: ACL Project (can edit/join: Allow members of #wikimedia-ve-tech)

Then it should be acl*Wikimedia-VE-Tech or acl*WMVE-Tech IMHO.

Not exactly, please look this: T159660#3114071

Galahad updated the task description. (Show Details)Jun 11 2017, 6:02 PM
Galahad added a comment.EditedJun 11 2017, 6:08 PM
In T167584#3337882, @MarcoAurelio wrote:

WRT subprojects, once you create them, all members of Wikimedia-Venezuela will be moved to the subprojects. Maybe you'd prefer milestones or separate projects. @mmodell can advice here I think.

I'll tell that to the Executive Director. For now, we need all public (sub)projects in Wikimedia-Venezuela.

Galahad updated the task description. (Show Details)Jun 11 2017, 6:13 PM
MarcoAurelio mentioned this in T167585: Modify rWMVE.Jun 12 2017, 10:53 AM
Aklapper added a comment.Jun 12 2017, 11:49 AM

Projects:

  • #wikimedia-ve-tech
    • Description: Coordinate technnical tasks in Wikimedia Venezuela' Servers
    • Type: Group
    • Project policies: ACL Project (can edit/join: Allow members of #wikimedia-ve-tech)

Please explain which underlying problem you think would get solved by creating an ACL project and restricting edit/join.

Galahad added a comment.Jun 12 2017, 4:33 PM
In T167584#3340100, @Aklapper wrote:

Projects:

  • #wikimedia-ve-tech
    • Description: Coordinate technnical tasks in Wikimedia Venezuela' Servers
    • Type: Group
    • Project policies: ACL Project (can edit/join: Allow members of #wikimedia-ve-tech)

Please explain which underlying problem you think would get solved by creating an ACL project and restricting edit/join.

Not exactly a ACL project, only a project with restricted edit/join policies.

Galahad updated the task description. (Show Details)Jun 12 2017, 4:33 PM
Aklapper added a comment.EditedJun 12 2017, 4:36 PM

@White-Master: In that case, could you please explain which underlying problem you want to solve by a #wikimedia-ve-tech project with restricted edit/join policies?

Galahad added a comment.Jun 12 2017, 5:01 PM
In T167584#3341341, @Aklapper wrote:

@White-Master: In that case, could you please explain which underlying problem you want to solve by a #wikimedia-ve-tech project with restricted edit/join policies?

The project will be used to rWMVE. This project can edit and push in the repository, for that need a restricted edit/join policies.

(explain about the project's use is here: T167585#3341307)

Aklapper added a comment.Jun 12 2017, 6:00 PM

Ah, so what you call #wikimedia-ve-tech will never ever see any tasks associated to that project, but only be an ACL project for Diffusion? That was not clear to me...

Does "can edit/join: allow members of #wikimedia-ve-tech" make sense? How can you allow a (already) member of project X to join (=become the member of) project X?

Galahad added a comment.EditedJun 12 2017, 8:20 PM
In T167584#3341834, @Aklapper wrote:

Ah, so what you call #wikimedia-ve-tech will never ever see any tasks associated to that project, but only be an ACL project for Diffusion? That was not clear to me...

Does "can edit/join: allow members of #wikimedia-ve-tech" make sense? How can you allow a (already) member of project X to join (=become the member of) project X?

The project is for WMVE's technical tasks (not be empty) and act as ACL project for rWMVE. It's exactly the same thing I asked for several months ago with Wikimedia-Venezuela (coordination of general tasks and act as ACL project for rWMVE). But now, after an organization (requested by the board and executive director) is needed a separate project for technical tasks.

Galahad moved this task from Nuevas tareas to En Progreso on the Wikimedia-Venezuela board.Jun 13 2017, 12:07 AM
Galahad added a comment.Jun 22 2017, 12:23 AM

*bump* - And this task? :/

Galahad raised the priority of this task from Medium to High.Jun 26 2017, 3:23 PM

We need this task. Also, we need a separate projects.

Aklapper closed this task as Resolved.Jul 1 2017, 4:58 PM
Aklapper claimed this task.

We need several (sub)projects, listed here:

Subprojects (in Wikimedia-Venezuela):

  • WMVE-GLAM
    • Description: Coordinate Wikimedia Venezuela's GLAM Program

Created: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/2862/

  • WMVE-WEP
    • Description: Coordinate Wikimedia Venezuela's Education Program

Created: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/2863/

Projects:

  • #wikimedia-ve-tech
    • Description: Coordinate technnical tasks in Wikimedia Venezuela' Servers
    • Type: Group
    • Project policies: can edit/join: allow members of #wikimedia-ve-tech

Created as https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/2865/ and as a normal project (as I don't see how this is a group project?).
I've set the Edit Policy to "members of #wikimedia-ve-tech and Phabricator admins", as it was before for Wikimedia-Venezuela (see below).

Milestones:

  • #WMVE-S2-2017
    • Start date: 06-15-2017
    • End date: 12-15-2017

Created as a milestone of Wikimedia-Venezuela : https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/2864/
Afterwards I realized that you did not explicitly state which project's milestone this should be, hence no idea if this is what you wanted and hence keeping this task open for the time being. If this was not wanted, feel free to archive that milestone, reopen this task, and clarify what was requested under which parent project.

Changes in Wikimedia-Venezuela

  • Project policies:
    • Can edit: All users
    • Can join: All users

Changed; see bottom of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/manage/2677/

For #wikimedia-ve-tech: We need change the push/edit policies in rWMVE from Wikimedia-Venezuela to #wikimedia-ve-tech. (I create other task for this)

That's T167585, I do not have rights to perform that.

Galahad reopened this task as Open.Jul 2 2017, 3:23 AM
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Galahad closed this task as Resolved.Jul 2 2017, 4:14 AM

Don't worry, a mistake :)

Galahad reopened this task as Open.EditedJul 2 2017, 4:24 AM

Sorry again! @Aklapper can you create a project like Wikimedia-Fundraising-Campaigns?

The name is: Wikimedia-VE-Campaigns

And all milestones created in that project?

Many thanks!

Aklapper added a comment.Jul 2 2017, 3:44 PM

And all milestones created in that project?

Please clarify which milestone(s) you want to have in which project. Thanks.

Luke081515 closed subtask T167585: Modify rWMVE as Resolved.Jul 2 2017, 11:22 PM
Galahad added a comment.EditedJul 3 2017, 12:55 AM
In T167584#3399034, @Aklapper wrote:

Please clarify which milestone(s) you want to have in which project. Thanks.

  • S2-2017
  • S1-2018
  • S2-2018
Aklapper added a comment.Jul 3 2017, 7:27 AM

Let me stress some unanswered parts of my question: Please clarify which milestone(s) you want to have in which project.
I guess that "S1-2018" means "January to June" but if that is not the case please also provide descriptions.

Galahad added a comment.Jul 3 2017, 11:25 AM
In T167584#3399642, @Aklapper wrote:

Let me stress some unanswered parts of my question: Please clarify which milestone(s) you want to have in which project.
I guess that "S1-2018" means "January to June" but if that is not the case please also provide descriptions.

In Wikimedia-VE-Campaigns (new project)

  • Description: The scheduled campaigns of Wikimedia-Venezuela ordered by semesters.
  • Milestones:
    • S2-2017
      • Description: This milestone contains all Wikimedia-Venezuela tasks in second semester (Jun-Dec) of 2017 fiscal year.
    • S1-2018
      • Description: This milestone contains all Wikimedia-Venezuela tasks in first semester (Jan-Jun) of 2018 fiscal year.
    • S2-2018
      • Description: This milestone contains all Wikimedia-Venezuela tasks in second semester (Jun-Dec) of 2018 fiscal year.
Aklapper closed this task as Resolved.Jul 3 2017, 11:32 AM
In T167584#3398762, @White-Master wrote:

Sorry again! @Aklapper can you create a project like Wikimedia-Fundraising-Campaigns?

The name is: Wikimedia-VE-Campaigns

Project created in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/2868/ (for future reference, a project description is welcome).

In T167584#3400474, @White-Master wrote:

In Wikimedia-VE-Campaigns (new project)

  • Description: The scheduled campaigns of Wikimedia-Venezuela ordered by semesters.
  • Milestones:
    • S2-2017
      • Description: This milestone contains all Wikimedia-Venezuela tasks in second semester (Jun-Dec) of 2017 fiscal year.
    • S1-2018
      • Description: This milestone contains all Wikimedia-Venezuela tasks in first semester (Jan-Jun) of 2018 fiscal year.
    • S2-2018
      • Description: This milestone contains all Wikimedia-Venezuela tasks in second semester (Jun-Dec) of 2018 fiscal year.

Created: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/subprojects/2868/

Galahad moved this task from En Progreso to Terminadas on the Wikimedia-Venezuela board.Jul 4 2017, 12:43 AM
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