@Effeietsanders do you expect this information to help for 2017 campaign? If not, I would set the priority as normal and come back to it after the launch of this year's campaign.

@LilyOfTheWest Yes. I need it rather yesterday than today :) See also the Australia ticket T174324 - we're pushing a number of countries to use Wikidata, but not providing them with the tools to surfacing monuments once it's there. That is a dead end and dealbreaker.

got it, @Effeietsanders .

@Lokal_Profil @JeanFred I'd recommend breaking down the problem to two parts:

• for every country that we have helped to move their data to Wikidata and their transition is completed, let's help them surface their list on Wikipedia or wherever they should surface it. Can one of you pick up this part?
• for all other countries: we document the steps after Sep.3 when the dust settle. (if someone has bandwidth to do that earlier, it's fine, but we need to prioritize as there are so many moving pieces, it seems.:)

Some good examples of the first bullet would go a long way for the second :)

@Effeietsanders @LilyOfTheWest Finally got time to write down the text that I have been composing in my head every day when cycling to work. It's on Drive (commenting is allowed but currently not editing, I'm happy to add you though). Let me know what you think and if it's useful we can figure out where a natural home is.

I'm ecstatic to see this, @Lokal_Profil. ;) Thanks! :)

I did one pass over it and left some edits in suggestion mode in the doc. One question: who do you expect to be the audience for this document? What kind of expertise do you assume they have?

Depending on your answer to the question, I may do one more pass and give you some more suggestions. But: it looks great even if you decide to publish it today. It's just the matter of improving it or not. :)

In T174336#3590503, @LilyOfTheWest wrote:

I'm ecstatic to see this, @Lokal_Profil. ;) Thanks! :)

I did one pass over it and left some edits in suggestion mode in the doc. One question: who do you expect to be the audience for this document? What kind of expertise do you assume they have?

I was thinking local organisers who:

• are knowledgeable about their data (so that they can make decisions on how to split lists etc);
• know what they used to have and what was/wasn't migrated (so that they know what the trade off is);
• have looked a bit at their data on Wikidata (so that they are a bit aware of quirks with their data there);
• have no knowledge of sparql, Lua etc.

I..e I don't expect them to build sparql queries themselves but I would expect them to be able to describe their selection criteria.

Did this sufficiently happen? :) By now it would make sense to either transfer or duplicate for 2018

I moved this to 2018's. @Lokal_Profil feel free to move to resolve if done. I /think/ we have some more work on this front, if I recall correctly.