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Tell wiki communities about deployment plan for Unicode Section IDs
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This is the wish#3 from last year's survey. Main ticket: T152540: Migrate to HTML5 section ids, deployment ticket: T175725: Deploy HTML5 sections to WMF production.

What is it?

We want to change links like https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия#.D0.98.D1.81.D1.82.D0.BE.D1.80.D0.B8.D1.8F to look like https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия#История

When?

We're currently populating parser cache on all wikis with headings that contain both old and new IDs. After this ends on October 19, we will be able to switch link generation to new style. Particular schedule for the next step is up to discussion. Maybe, community liaisons can help us with figuring that out? We might want to start with one non-Latin wiki.

What about the old links?
Old links from third-party sites will continue to work.

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kaldari created this task.Sep 26 2017, 11:18 PM
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kaldari assigned this task to Johan.Sep 26 2017, 11:19 PM
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kaldari moved this task from New & TBD Tickets to CL, QA, Data analysis backlog on the Community-Tech board.Sep 26 2017, 11:19 PM
MaxSem updated the task description. (Show Details)Sep 27 2017, 12:06 AM
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Jack_who_built_the_house subscribed.Sep 27 2017, 11:22 AM
Johan triaged this task as Medium priority.Sep 27 2017, 10:07 PM
Johan moved this task from To Triage to Not ready to announce on the User-notice board.Sep 28 2017, 11:58 AM
kaldari added a comment.Sep 29 2017, 7:23 PM

@Johan: Even though the linking behavior won't change for another month, I'd like us to go ahead and announce the (somewhat vague) roll-out plan, and the fact that Unicode section IDs are now live (even if we aren't linking to them yet). For example, https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия#История actually works now. That will be big news for the non-latin wikis.

Qgil added a project: Community-Relations-Support (Oct-Dec 2017).Oct 2 2017, 9:42 AM
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Johan added a comment.Oct 2 2017, 1:13 PM

@kaldari Absolutely. I'll ping you and @MaxSem to get more details to get some details around the vagueness.

Johan moved this task from Backlog to October on the Community-Relations-Support (Oct-Dec 2017) board.Oct 2 2017, 1:13 PM
Liuxinyu970226 subscribed.Oct 19 2017, 8:45 AM
MBH subscribed.Oct 25 2017, 2:51 PM

Please, start with Russian wiki, community discussion on https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F#.D0.92.D0.BA.D0.BB.D1.8E.D1.87.D0.B8.D1.82.D1.8C_.D1.87.D0.B8.D1.82.D0.B0.D0.B5.D0.BC.D1.8B.D0.B9_URL_.D0.B4.D0.BB.D1.8F_.D1.80.D0.B0.D0.B7.D0.B4.D0.B5.D0.BB.D0.BE.D0.B2

Also, maybe your parser can automatically convert percent-encoded links too, like this?

• Arbnos subscribed.Oct 26 2017, 12:32 PM
Sunpriat2 mentioned this in T179079: Enable HTML5 section ids in ruwiki.Oct 26 2017, 3:39 PM
Sunpriat2 added a parent task: T175725: Deploy HTML5 sections to WMF production.Oct 27 2017, 10:12 AM
Sunpriat2 added a subtask: T179079: Enable HTML5 section ids in ruwiki.
MaxSem closed subtask T179079: Enable HTML5 section ids in ruwiki as Resolved.Oct 31 2017, 9:21 PM
MaxSem added a comment.Oct 31 2017, 9:48 PM

Russian projects are done, I think we can tentatively deploy everywhere next week unless new serious problems surface. Do we need any extra outreach for that?

Johan added a comment.Nov 1 2017, 8:28 AM

@MaxSem Nah, this should be an uncontroversial fix of a problem. We should do extra outreach in the sense that we tell them we're doing it, not start a discussion on every wiki.

Johan added a comment.EditedNov 1 2017, 9:19 AM

I've told Russian Wikipedia the change has been implemented and will take effect over the coming weeks. I'll include a general update in Tech News?

Johan moved this task from Not ready to announce to Announce in next Tech/News on the User-notice board.Nov 2 2017, 11:26 AM
Johan moved this task from Announce in next Tech/News to In current Tech/News draft on the User-notice board.Nov 2 2017, 4:43 PM
Johan moved this task from In current Tech/News draft to Already announced/Archive on the User-notice board.Nov 9 2017, 4:57 PM
MaxSem closed this task as Resolved.Dec 2 2017, 2:42 AM

Everything's deployed, weeeeeeeee!

Liuxinyu970226 unsubscribed.Dec 5 2017, 10:48 AM
• Niharika subscribed.EditedDec 5 2017, 11:37 AM
In T176828#3805053, @MaxSem wrote:

Everything's deployed, weeeeeeeee!

Is this really deployed everywhere? I still see https://hi.wikibooks.org/wiki/कला_और_संस्कृति#.E0.A4.B0.E0.A4.82.E0.A4.97.E0.A4.AE.E0.A4.82.E0.A4.9A and https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/विकिपीडिया:इण्टरनेट_पर_हिन्दी_के_साधन#.E0.A4.B9.E0.A4.BF.E0.A4.A8.E0.A5.8D.E0.A4.A6.E0.A5.80_.E0.A4.A8.E0.A4.BF.E0.A4.B0.E0.A5.8D.E0.A4.A6.E0.A5.87.E0.A4.B6.E0.A4.BF.E0.A4.95.E0.A4.BE in all Chrome, Firefox and Safari.

Johan moved this task from Already announced/Archive to Announce in next Tech/News on the User-notice board.Dec 5 2017, 11:55 AM
kaldari added a comment.Dec 5 2017, 11:24 PM

@Niharika: Works for me. I get https://hi.wikibooks.org/wiki/कला_और_संस्कृति#रंगमंच from the table of contents. Where did you get your link from? Note that pages whose caches haven't cleared may still have the old-style links.

Krenair awarded a token.Dec 5 2017, 11:36 PM
MBH added a comment.Dec 6 2017, 10:48 AM

Is it possible to not encode page title itself too? Now the anchor link from the first message of this theme was copied from Chrome as
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F#История instead of https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия#История

Johan moved this task from Announce in next Tech/News to In current Tech/News draft on the User-notice board.Dec 6 2017, 10:52 AM
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Qgil moved this task from October to December on the Community-Relations-Support (Oct-Dec 2017) board.Dec 7 2017, 11:33 AM
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MusikAnimal moved this task from CL, QA, Data analysis backlog to Archive on the Community-Tech board.Dec 12 2017, 8:04 PM
Johan moved this task from In current Tech/News draft to Already announced/Archive on the User-notice board.Dec 14 2017, 10:54 AM
Johan moved this task from Backlog to Archive on the User-Johan board.Jan 10 2018, 4:30 PM
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