The Tokipona Wikipedia was moved to Wikia long ago, and the Wikimedia wiki left behind, as well as the unused Wiktionary and Wikibooks, were locked in 2007. The also-unused Tokipona Wikiquote was locked in 2009, and all of the Tokipona wikis were deleted in 2010. In 2007, a Tokipona Wikisource was accidentally created, but it was deleted in 2014. I propose that all Toki Pona localization files be removed from MediaWiki, the ability to add descriptions in Toki Pona be removed from Wikidata, and the Tokipona portal and localizations be removed from Translatewiki.
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| Removed Toki Pona localization files | mediawiki/core | REL1_30 | +1 -123 | |
| Removed Toki Pona localization files | mediawiki/core | master | +1 -123 |
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Change 385771 had a related patch set uploaded (by Zoranzoki21; owner: Zoranzoki21):
[mediawiki/core@master] Removed Toki Pona localization files from MediaWiki/core
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I have not idea what next to work.. I uploaded one patch.. If need more, you can work it.. I moving now on To deploy.
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Which actual problem is this task supposed to solve?
Just because there is no Tokipona site on Wikimedia sites, why should we remove translations from MediaWiki for anyone out there who may want to set up a MediaWiki site in Tokipona? (Or do I misunderstand?)
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Change 385771 abandoned by Zoranzoki21:
Removed TokiPona localization files from MediaWiki/core
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If any tell to lang Tokipona can be removed from mediawiki/core, patch can be restored. Aklapper is right. See his comment in task
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Links always help. (otherwise everyone else has to find them independently)
https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Portal:Tokipona says "This language does not have an ISO-639 code. Translations outside of the MediaWiki scope will be discarded"
It would not be supported unless there was an ISO 639-n language code assigned to it per https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translatewiki.net_languages
There is no ISO 639-n language code associated with it, per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toki_Pona and the 2007 rejected application at http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/chg_detail.asp?id=2007-011
However there is a fresh pending-application in 2017 at http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/chg_detail.asp?id=2017-035&lang=tok
Re: the proposed steps:
I propose that all
- Toki Pona localization files be removed from MediaWiki,
I don't know what the policy/guidelines are around this.
- the ability to add descriptions in Toki Pona be removed from Wikidata,
I confirm that if we add tokipona-0 to our babel box, then the option to edit the language in wikidata appears. I agree it should be removed.
- and the Tokipona portal
A placeholder should be left, with explanation.
- and localizations be removed from Translatewiki.
I don't know what the policy/guidelines are around this.
@siebrand @Nikerabbit can you advise?
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Change 385771 restored by Zoranzoki21:
Removed TokiPona localization files from MediaWiki/core
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Change 385771 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/core@master] Removed Toki Pona localization files
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Change 386311 had a related patch set uploaded (by MaxSem; owner: Zoranzoki21):
[mediawiki/core@REL1_30] Removed Toki Pona localization files
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Change 386311 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/core@REL1_30] Removed Toki Pona localization files
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As a Toki Pona speaker, I found it offending to see a bug calling to "nuke last visages" of my language and have therefore changed the title.
Also, I find it important to point out that @KATMAKROFAN, the creator of this bug (whom I do not otherwise know), seems to be a systematic opposer of constructed languages, as evidenced by his English Wikipedia user page which features user boxes stating that "This user can't stand Toki Pona." and "This user can't stand Lojban.", both of which he himself created in October 2017 and is the only user of. Therefore, he might be in a conflict of interest (on the other side than I am).
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Thanks for renaming. Personal opinions are not usually considered as a conflict of interest. The main motivation here is the lack of a standard language code.
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@Nikerabbit: Thank you for your reaction. I just wanted to point out that there are people out who are ferocious and loud enemies of artificial languages and that this might be one of them.
It was interesting for me to learn from @Quiddity's post about the fresh pending application for an ISO code, which might eventually solve the problem, although for Wikimedia it might come too late.