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Huggle: Support warning template parsing from "Flow" talk pages in order to evaluate current "warning level" of target user
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I don't know if this is how things will work in future, but if anonymous users, like IP users, would have Flow enabled by default, Huggle would no longer be able to retrieve / parse list of warning templates that were already sent to user in order to know what warning level they have.

To make this easier to understand for people who don't know much about vandalism or Huggle: the classic schema for wikis like enwiki is that vandal user is supposed to receive 4 warnings before they get blocked and each time the warning level increases, and the template used to warn target user is more direct and less friendly. Now, for this to work, Huggle needs to know what current warning level of user is, before it attempts to warn / block them. Right now, what we do, is that we retrieve the content of talk page and parse it using special "magic strings" that are defined in project settings and using these we determine highest level, recent warning template.

If user had flow enabled on their talk page, this parser probably wouldn't work as there would be no way to retrieve the talk page in standard wiki-code format. It's probably necessary to again override functions that retrieve the talk pages, check if user has flow enabled, and if yes, then analyze the contents of page using flow APIs.

Because vast majority of all vandals are either IP users or very new users, probably close to 0 of them in this moment have flow on their talk pages, so this task isn't really high priority, but this may change in future if it was decided to enable flow by default for all new or IP users.

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Petrb created this task.Nov 11 2017, 12:52 PM
Quiddity removed a subscriber: Quiddity.Nov 12 2017, 3:04 AM

It's a good point to raise our awareness about. Thanks @Petrb. Before Structured Discussions (formerly Flow) could become a new general standard, lots of improvements would have to be made so that it doesn't negate a variety of workflows. This is one more to add to that list. Huggle is an important tool that does an important job, and we don't want progress on SD to make that job harder.

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SBisson moved this task from Inbox to External on the Growth-Team board.Sep 17 2018, 10:36 AM
Petrb moved this task from Backlog to Code / Features on the Huggle board.Oct 10 2018, 6:16 PM