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Inform enwiki and dewiki communities of feature improvements to Page Previews, then discuss upcoming feature release
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Background

Prior to release we will be:

Acceptance criteria

  • inform enwiki and dewiki communities of feature updates and analysis
  • update enwiki and dewiki communities of upcoming Page Previews deployment

Event Timeline

ovasileva triaged this task as Medium priority.Dec 7 2017, 12:59 PM
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This sounds like a job for a CL! @ovasileva do I remember correctly that this would be a Q3 (Jan-March) thing?

inform enwiki and dewiki communities of upcoming page previews deployment

Enwiki already knows about page previews, and had a lengthy discussion rejecting it for the time being... Given that, I would think that any informing of a deployment would go in the other direction, from the community to the developers. Or is this talking about just the addition of some new features to the beta feature, while keeping it in beta?

@Yair_rand Yes, that was in April of last year. The product team has listened to many of the issues raised in the discussion - fixing quite a majority in the interim year and 7 months. We would like to approach the community with an update. Maybe "inform" isn't the right word.

Chris, do you have all the info you need in the description to proceed?

@Yair_rand - perhaps inform isn't the best wording. The original RfC rejected the feature based on some current bugs that we've since fixed. This announcement will have an update on the fixes and other improvements and double-check that all is in order prior to deployment. If any new concerns have arisen, we'll consider those as well.

ovasileva raised the priority of this task from Medium to High.Feb 5 2018, 10:45 AM

@ovasileva @CKoerner_WMF I'm sorry, but your posts are both somewhat ambiguous and I'm having trouble understanding exactly what the plan is. Is the intention to post a summary of the bugs that have been fixed, and then launch a new RfC on whether to enable the feature? Or just post the summary, request some feedback/bug reports, and wait to see if someone there starts an RfC to enable it?

To be clear, the previous discussion (on enwiki) was not closed as consensus for launching as soon as certain bugs are fixed. If a new RfC is launched, there might be consensus in favor, but there certainly isn't an established consensus now.

Hey @Yair_rand I'll try to help clarify. Let me know if there's still confusion. We'd like to update the community on the improvements the team has made in response to concerns, requests, and bugs on Engish Wikipedia and elsewhere. That's the first step. Eventually we'd like to deploy the feature, but we don't want to put the community in a stressful situation by suggesting a date right this minute. We also don't want to put the product teams in a crunch to fix any blockers we might be made aware of after discussing the updates with the community. No plans for an RfC on our end at the moment.

I'll update the task title.

CKoerner_WMF renamed this task from Inform enwiki and dewiki communities of upcoming feature release to Inform enwiki and dewiki communities of feature improvements to Page Previews, then discuss upcoming feature release.Feb 5 2018, 3:48 PM
CKoerner_WMF updated the task description. (Show Details)

A message has been posted to English Wikipedia. One is coming to German shortly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Page_Previews

Conversation around deployment configuration now happening on Village pump miscellaneous (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Page_Previews), with cross-posts to Village pump proposals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Page_previews_-_request_for_feedback) and Village pump technical (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Page_Previews). I think we can close this task and open a new one for tracking follow-up discussions from these conversations.

Marking as successfully resolved. Communities at both English and German were notified, participated in discussion, and provided feedback on a way forward. Follow up notifications were given for deployment times.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fragen_zur_Wikipedia#Next_Steps

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Page_Previews

Work on this task was evaluated in Q4.