I *think* traffic is about 150k pageviews per day last month: https://tinyurl.com/ydcgapbx

Seems quite a bit for piwik actually.

Turns out documentation pages will not be included in this site, from my brief inspection terms_of_use and privacy_policy are the most visited pages in wikimediafoundation.org so it might be that number of pages is quite smaller

Q: This is to be a WordPress site, right? Looks like WordPress comes with built in pageview and unique stats? https://en.support.wordpress.com/stats/#views-and-visitors

Is there something else piwik would provide?

Update on conversation. Given that this new foundation site is a third party hosted on wordpress. site our proposal is to check whether these wordpress plugins for stats do work to gather the data comns is interested in:

• https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-statistics/
• https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-power-stats/

@Nuria - our vendors reviewed those two modules and are not able to recommend them:

"As a summary, both plugins fall short in some key areas but the biggest blockers include:

• Writes on page load which will cause scaling problems
• Incompatibility with caching which will result in inaccurate data
• Potential security concerns

One of the biggest issues is the caching, so it will be important that any solution uses javascript to handle the analytic reports. Ideally it should handle this on an external server to avoid scan problems because the requests writing to the server database on each page load will ultimately not scale."

I believe we remain with Piwik as the most preferable solution. We can investigate a third-party hosting solution for Piwik installation, but would obviously prefer to keep it in-house if possible. Please let me know how you suggest proceeding.

Hm, likely I just don't understand how the plugins work. Is it that the plugins only work record data on the backend when PHP is executed? I'd be surprised if that were the case, but if so, the concern about caching makes sense. I'd expect that these work more like google analytics (and piwik), but perhaps not?

Please @varment be so kind as to share the details about the technical objections.

@Ottomata and @Nuria - I have requested the technical information from Reaktiv and will share as soon as I can. However, they have reviewed these extensions and done two broad reviews of multiple WordPress plugins at our request as well. So far, each process has resulted in the elimination of WordPress plugin based options, leaving us with Piwik as the best option. So, I think at this point, the question is more are we using our installation or a third-party installation.

@Ottomata and @Nuria, here is the writeup they provided:

Alright, thanks. I've also just looked a bit into wp-statistics code, and it seems they do not use client side logging to grab the data. https://github.com/wp-statistics/wp-statistics/pull/109 would do that, but that has been sitting since January.

Thanks for doing the research, I concur that neither of these plugins will do the job. :)

@Ottomata and @Nuria, with that in mind - is internal hosting possible or should we look at third-party hosting for Piwik? We are looking to finalize that in the next few days in case we need to negotiate a third-party contract (which can take some time).

@Varnent we can probably accommodate the site but not immediately. What are the target dates you are looking for launch?

Site launch is scheduled for 30 July. Should we utilize third-party until internal is ready? Any sense of if we are talking about months or a fiscal year? :)

We can probably accomodate a 30 july launch date if by then we are getting less traffic on our current instance.

@Varnent confirming that we can accommodate site. Let us know when you are ready to include the piwik snipet

We will need to know the url of the new site

@Nuria - awesome! When it launches on 30 July 2018, the URL for the new site will be https://wikimediafoundation.org/

You will need to have your developer team include the piwik snippet, let us know when you are ready for that.

@Nuria - Great! They have an open ticket in their system ready for us to give them the code. Feel free to send it to me, or post it here and I'll pass it along. :)

<!-- Matomo -->
<script type="text/javascript">

var _paq = _paq || [];
/* tracker methods like "setCustomDimension" should be called before "trackPageView" */
_paq.push(['trackPageView']);
_paq.push(['enableLinkTracking']);
(function() {
  var u="//piwik.wikimedia.org/";
  _paq.push(['setTrackerUrl', u+'piwik.php']);
  _paq.push(['setSiteId', '17']);
  var d=document, g=d.createElement('script'), s=d.getElementsByTagName('script')[0];
  g.type='text/javascript'; g.async=true; g.defer=true; g.src=u+'piwik.js'; s.parentNode.insertBefore(g,s);
})();

</script>
<!-- End Matomo Code -->

I have passed it along - thank you!

You can ping us on irc once you are close to launch, your piwik user 'wikipedia15" should have access to the data for this site, i woudld check that is the case now (even if data reports are empty). I will be closing this ticket shortly, please reopen if you have an aissue.

Just wanted to verify that you are receiving data from the site. :)

In order to access piwik (and any internal tool) you need to have ldap credentials (a user and a password) once you enter those the wikimedia15 credentials can be entered in the piwik login screen that should appear. Let us know what steps are not working.

Piwik is registering about 5000 visits per day

In T188419#4481359, @Nuria wrote:

In order to access piwik (and any internal tool) you need to have ldap credentials (a user and a password) once you enter those the wikimedia15 credentials can be entered in the piwik login screen that should appear. Let us know what steps are not working.

I seem to be getting stuck at the LDAP login. I am using the same LDAP info I do elsewhere (I just verified on the OIT LDAP password screen that my info is working), but not letting me to Piwik login screen. Does my account have access?

Do file a ticket, it might be you are not on the ldap group needed: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Systems/Piwik#Access

In T188419#4485799, @Nuria wrote:

Do file a ticket, it might be you are not on the ldap group needed: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Systems/Piwik#Access

Done - thank you!

@Nuria - good news - we now have access to piwik site via LDAP logins - bad news - wiki15 does not have access to the new website's data: