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Remove "own work" requirement from default-uploader default verbiage
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Current uploader verbiage says:

This is my own work - I confirm that I am uploading this file following the terms of service and licensing policies on Gun Sense Rebuttals.

This statement says the upload must conform to MY WIKI policies-- NOT WikiMedia.org policies, or Wikipedia.org policies.
My wiki policy is that public domain and other legally-shareable documents are allowed.
So the statement "This is my own work" is incorrect, as it is too limiting.

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Johnywhy created this task.Apr 17 2018, 1:41 AM
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Aklapper changed the task status from Open to Stalled.Apr 17 2018, 8:29 AM
Aklapper edited projects, added MediaWiki-Uploading; removed Multimedia, UploadWizard.

Don't use "This is my own work" (upload-form-label-own-work) if it is not your work? :)
You are free to customize messages if they don't fit on your wiki and/or customize the licensemessages default preference.

I don't understand what this task is requesting. It is generally welcome to provide 1) steps to reproduce, 2) expected outcome, and 3) actual outcome when writing tasks. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug

Johnywhy added a comment.EditedApr 18 2018, 2:03 AM

Don't use "This is my own work" (upload-form-label-own-work) if it is not your work? :)

Uploading is not possible without hitting that box.

The verbiage in The uploader isn't appropriate for every wiki. If MediaWiki wants to support external wikis, then seems that shouldn't be hardcoded.

I understand if there's no bandwidth for it, but that's a different matter.

The phrase below is appropriate, because it's open ended. It respects the policies of the wiki, whatever those policies are.

"i confirm that I am uploading this file following the terms of service and licensing policies on Gun Sense Rebuttals."

The phrase "This is my own work" makes an assumption about the host wiki policies. Or it's attempting to force Wikipedia's or wikimedia's policies on other wikis. Is that appropriate? Maybe so.

Aklapper removed a subscriber: Aklapper.Apr 18 2018, 9:30 AM

@Johnywhy: The language that was used in the previous comment is belittling ("I assume you know that." No, I did not) and insulting. Please read and follow the Code of Conduct and the Phabricator etiquette if you would like to be active in Wikimedia Phabricator. Thank you for your understanding.

I covered existing ways to edit the message (and did not realize that it was only part of the message so I might not have fully understand the problem). Neither upload-form-label-own-work nor upload-form-label-own-work-message-generic-local are "hardcoded". You can easily overwrite strings by editing a wiki page.

It was not clear to me that you maybe propose by default to remove the first part of that string. However as the second part is also meant for uploading "own work" I'm not sure what would be the best way for someone to proceed here.

For future reference, when creating tasks please follow the structure on https://mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug to avoid misunderstandings. Thank you.

Aklapper changed the task status from Stalled to Open.Apr 18 2018, 9:31 AM
Tgr added a subscriber: Tgr.Apr 18 2018, 11:50 AM

See the docs on how to configure available licenses.

Johnywhy added a subscriber: Aklapper.EditedApr 18 2018, 2:44 PM

: The language that was used in.... the previous comment..."

You're referring to an earlier version of my posted comment. Let's plz go with my final edit.

i may have misunderstood you-- i thought you were saying user should upload without agreeing to "own work", which is impossible.

It was not clear to me that you maybe propose by default to remove the first part of that string.

That's what I propose.

the second part is also meant for uploading "own work"

"meant for"? The 2nd part of the default statement says nothing about "own work":

"i confirm that I am uploading this file following the terms of service and licensing policies on Gun Sense Rebuttals."

Aklapper removed a subscriber: Aklapper.Apr 18 2018, 2:46 PM
Johnywhy renamed this task from Allow Public Domain Uploads to Remove "own work" requirement from upload wizard verbiage.Apr 18 2018, 2:47 PM
Johnywhy renamed this task from Remove "own work" requirement from upload wizard verbiage to Remove "own work" requirement from upload wizard default verbiage.
Johnywhy renamed this task from Remove "own work" requirement from upload wizard default verbiage to Remove "own work" requirement from default-uploader default verbiage.Apr 18 2018, 2:51 PM
Johnywhy added a comment.EditedApr 18 2018, 4:17 PM

See the docs on how to configure available licenses.

Many thanks for that! However, not sure that's the same uploader.

i edited the text on these 3 pages, and i see no changes in the uploader verbiage:
MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-source-ownwork
MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-source-ownwork-assert-generic
MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-source-ownwork-generic-explain

i added the following settings to localsettings.php. Still no change in uploader verbiage:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UploadWizard#Usage_in_license-free_environments

Johnywhy updated the task description. (Show Details)Apr 18 2018, 4:24 PM
Tgr added a comment.Apr 19 2018, 4:04 PM

Yeah, sorry, that's for UploadWizard, you seem to be using the editor's upload dialog. It has some documentation on config options, I don't know how flexible they are.

Thx, @Tgr. I found licensing config, but unclear whether any modes allow upload without "own".
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUploadDialog

@Johnywhy: The language that was used in the previous comment is belittling ("I assume you know that." No, I did not) and insulting.

@Aklapper i apologize if you found my language insulting, i did not mean to be so. thx

(curious, i don't see my previous language in my edit history. Oh well.)