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As discussed on the Wikidata Project chat please create a redirect from https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page. This can't be done from the gui as ns0 is meant for items and this isn't an item

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Mbch331 created this task.May 28 2018, 6:44 PM
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But namespace 0 is items.

Lexemes are in their own namespace and I don't think it'd be good for re-users to mix them all together. Right now you can rather easily split Items, Lexemes and Properties.

@Micru This isn't invalid. The redirect is not meant for people using Wikidata itself, but for people that type in [[:d:Wikidata]] on another project and expect to reach the main page of Wikidata. Since ns0 is for items it's impossible to create a redirect ourselves. The interface and the API don't allow for this.

In T195793#4238638, @Micru wrote:

@Mbch331 Thanks for clarifying that. I have never used [[:d:Wikidata]] myself, so I didn't consider that it was so important for other people. For the record I have to add that typing [[:w:Wikipedia]] links to the English Wikipedia article for Wikipedia and not to the Main page of https://www.wikipedia.org/

That's because the prefix w in interwikis points to enwiki by default on multilingual projects.

In T195793#4238638, @Micru wrote:

@Mbch331 Thanks for clarifying that. I have never used [[:d:Wikidata]] myself, so I didn't consider that it was so important for other people. For the record I have to add that typing [[:w:Wikipedia]] links to the English Wikipedia article for Wikipedia and not to the Main page of https://www.wikipedia.org/

I guess you know the cause - wikipedia.org isn't a project but rather a disambiuation between projects, wikidata.org is a dedicated project. Also, it'll be more understandable if [[:d:Wikidata]] would take you to the item about Wikidata. At least, it would be consistent with other's project state.

Well, even [[:d:Main Page]] or [[:d:Main page]] won't take you to the main page (which is more stranger, because both [[:w:Main page]] and [[:w:Main Page]] would take you to the main page of the English Wikipedia and this is true at least about cswiki as well ([[:w:cs:Main Page]] and [[:w:cs:Main page]] would take you to the main page of the Czech Wikipedia).

At this place, I'd like to remind that both https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Main_page and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Main_Page used to exist, but were deleted by @Vogone as "bad hack". The question is what a hack is. I'm not an amdin nor a sysadmin so I cannot check, but maybe it can direct us somewhere.

Martin

At this place, I'd like to remind that both https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Main_page and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Main_Page used to exist, but were deleted by @Vogone as "bad hack". The question is what a hack is. I'm not an amdin nor a sysadmin so I cannot check, but maybe it can direct us somewhere.

Before getting deleted it was a redirect to [[Wikidata:Main Page]].

Dcljr added a subscriber: Dcljr.May 29 2018, 7:27 PM

Seems to me, the solution to this problem is to simply modify the error message that is shown when a nonexistent page title is requested. (See my comment at the local discussion, and follow up there, if desired.)

At this place, I'd like to remind that both https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Main_page and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Main_Page used to exist, but were deleted by @Vogone as "bad hack". The question is what a hack is. I'm not an amdin nor a sysadmin so I cannot check, but maybe it can direct us somewhere.

Before getting deleted it was a redirect to [[Wikidata:Main Page]].

My question is more about why it got deleted than what was in it - that is somehow clear from the title itself.

If I remember correctly, I was asked by Lydia to delete this because the WMDE developers had some technical concerns due to ns0 being the item namespace. But since this is almost 5 years ago by now, my memory could be wrong.

As to why I called it a "hack": I created this redirect by importing the redirect from metawiki which is obviously a rather unusual way of creating pages in the wikidatawiki ns0.

Dcljr added a comment.May 31 2018, 7:54 PM

The suggestion I alluded to above (T195793#4240816) has been put into effect. See d:MediaWiki:Wikibase-noentity and the associated talk page. Not sure how that change affects this task, if at all.

Vvjjkkii renamed this task from Redirect the page Wikidata to Wikidata:Main_Page to m4baaaaaaa.Jul 1 2018, 1:08 AM
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