Maniphest T196798

SPARQL federated query SERVICE endpoint syntax (variable instead of uri)
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	Jun 9 2018, 3:59 AM

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Current samples for federated queries in SPARQL with blazegraph suggest the following format:

SERVICE <http://data.cervantesvirtual.com/openrdf-sesame/repositories/data>  { .. }

SERVICE SILENT <http://data.cervantesvirtual.com/openrdf-sesame/repositories/data>  { .. }

Following the discussion here, it seems that the following should be valid as well:

BIND(uri("http://data.cervantesvirtual.com/openrdf-sesame/repositories/data") as ?endpoint)
SERVICE ?endpoint  { .. }

?item wdt:P123456 ?endpoint .
SERVICE ?endpoint  { .. }

Obviously, provided that the endpoint is accessible from query.wikidata.org. If not:

?item wdt:P123456 ?endpoint .
SERVICE SILENT ?endpoint  { .. }

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Esc3300 created this task.Jun 9 2018, 3:59 AM

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Esc3300 updated the task description. (Show Details)Jun 9 2018, 4:10 AM

Using a variable as the service endpoint is syntactically valid, but the semantics of it is undefined per SPARQL 1.1 Federated Query, section 4:

In the this section we do not present official evaluation semantics for the SPARQL pattern SERVICE VAR. We only provide indications about how the evaluation of the SPARQL pattern SERVICE VAR can be evaluated.

In T196798#4269194, @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE wrote:

Using a variable as the service endpoint is syntactically invalid,

Shouldn't that read valid instead of invalid ?

Indeed, thank you (edited).

Coming to the second part:

In T196798#4269194, @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE wrote:

the semantics of it is undefined per SPARQL 1.1 Federated Query, section 4:

Would this have an actual impact?

It seems that even when using URI, the same service can be called just once.

Esc3300 added a parent task: T197530: [tracking] federation query issues on Wikidata Query Server.Jun 17 2018, 7:58 AM

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Gehel moved this task from Incoming to Small Tasks on the Wikidata-Query-Service board.Feb 13 2020, 2:15 PM

Changing the syntax of SERVICE calls would require changing the Blazegraph implementation, which should be done upstream. I'm closing this, feel free to reopen if you feel strongly about it.

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