In T200373#4598385, @jmatazzoni wrote:

This seems like a good idea but in building it, it might be worth keeping a planned development in mind. For Event Tool, we are planning to let people select the namespaces they want to count. It's likely that Main will still be the default. But don't do anything that would stop the system from being able to actually count talk as well if the user selects it. Or if the user selects to have Main and Talk, to be able to assess the true split.

Good point. Do we have any idea if talk pages are ever used for events (Editathons and such)?

We could offer a checkbox "Use subject page instead of talk page", for each category. How does that sound?

While from my experience and conversations with Sati, it's pretty clear that people don't normally conduct events using talk pages or care about those states - however as @jmatazzoni is owning this project now, I will ask him to decide what needs to happen on this ticket and whether we even need to do it. It's been sitting in this column for quite some time now and it seems like the product requirements are no longer clear.

Removing this from Sprint as it seems like there are some product decisions to be made first before we can work on this.

@jmatazzoni I recommend you update the ticket. It needs to be re-estimated. Should not be in the sprint. I would recommend we assume people don't do talk-page-events and avoid checkboxes for now. Adding them if required makes more sense than putting in work upfront for adding them without knowing if there's a need for it.

In T200373#4696162, @Niharika wrote:

@jmatazzoni I recommend you update the ticket. It needs to be re-estimated. Should not be in the sprint. I would recommend we assume people don't do talk-page-events and avoid checkboxes for now. Adding them if required makes more sense than putting in work upfront for adding them without knowing if there's a need for it.

I am just noticing the point value was removed from this ticket. Any comments above of mine questioning this ticket were from a time when I was ignorant about how talk page categories are used.

To be clear, this ticket is not about events that need to count talk pages changes. It is inspired by the fact that event-specific categories and Wikiproject categories are, for policy reasons, applied to talk pages, not article pages. E.g., see the categories All_WikiProject_Women_in_Red_pages or WikiProject_Women%27s_History_articles. Both are composed entirely of talk pages.

I will rewrite and clarify the Description. This was a 2-pointer. I'll put it back for re-estimation.

@Niharika, wait, sorry, I'm confusing things. I see now we did re-estimate this, and it was given a timebox of 4 hours.