Create Wikisource Neapolitan
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Description

The language committee has approved the creation of Wikisource Neapolitan.

  • Request page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Neapolitan
  • Language code: nap
  • Site URL: nap.wikisource.org
  • Project name: Wikisource
  • Project namespace: Wikisource
  • Project talk namespace: Wikisource chiacchiera
  • Project logo: Based on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikisource-logo-nap.svg (in reality, it should be the regular Wikisource logo, including the word "Wikisource", but with the graphical element replaced by the .svg file indicated here. Its top resembles Mt. Vesuvius, I am told).
  • Timezone: Europe/Rome
  • Local file uploads: disabled
  • Additional namespaces: "Autore" (Author), "Autore chiàcchiera", "Ennece" (Index), "Ennece chiàcchiera", "Paggena" (Page), "Paggena chiàcchiera", "Opera" (Work), "Opera chiàcchiera"

In addition to the content in the principal body of the test (Category:Napulitano of Multilingual Wikisource) and whatever templates and modules the community designates, there are documents in Categoria:Testi in napoletano of Italian Wikisource that should be copied in as well. (It is unclear at the moment if originals will remain in Italian Wikisource or not.)

Thank you.


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StevenJ81 updated the task description. (Show Details)Thu, Nov 29, 5:30 PM

Per current rules, ops list notified by me today 2018-11-29 (held for moderation as I am not a member of it).

jcrespo added a subscriber: jcrespo.EditedThu, Nov 29, 6:46 PM

I don't know who added the ops list requirement, but the subticket is enough for us for communication (maybe someone else needed it, but not us #DBAs). As the procedure says, a ping is enough, being public you can continue as normal and we will setup cloud replication at T210762 when finished.

I'm not a member of Wikitech, and personally do not have a strong need to be one, as I'm not doing the tech-side work. With all due respect, going forward, I intend to do only what I have done here: I will open the initial phabricator task, tagged with Wiki-Setup (Create). There are plenty of people who follow that board who know what to do next. So I feel confident things will be taken care from there.

Urbanecm claimed this task.Thu, Nov 29, 7:28 PM

I'll upload initial configuration.

Urbanecm removed Urbanecm as the assignee of this task.Thu, Nov 29, 8:55 PM
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Let's do it as part of Google-Code-in-2018 this year.

Urbanecm triaged this task as Low priority.Thu, Nov 29, 9:06 PM
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Change 477177 had a related patch set uploaded (by Jon Harald Søby; owner: Jon Harald Søby):
[mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage@master] Add Neapolitan namespace translations for ProofreadPage

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/477177

jhsoby added a comment.EditedSun, Dec 2, 11:29 PM

The index and page namespaces are defined in the Proofread Page extension, for which I just submitted a patch above. In addition to this, you can localize the names of the following special pages:

  • Special:IndexPages
  • Special:PagesWithoutScans
  • Special:ProofreadIndexOai
  • Special:ProofreadIndexOaiSchema

(The last two don't seem to be in use on Wikimedia projects.) @Ruthven, if you can provide translations for these I can add them as well. (Oh, and translations don't have to be in AwkwardCamelCase, but can be in Normal spelling.)

The other namespaces (author and work) are defined in wmf-config.

Change 477177 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage@master] Add Neapolitan namespace translations for ProofreadPage

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/477177

If @Ruthven could also take a look at the Scribunto and Gadgets tasks (see this task description) to have those strings localized it'd be awesome. Thanks.

For ProofreadPage.aliases I've opened a new task so we can leave the comments in this for the actual wiki creation itself :-)
T210997: Add Neapolitan (nap) translations to ProofreadPage (aliases only)

Ruthven added a comment.EditedFri, Dec 7, 7:32 AM

The index and page namespaces are defined in the Proofread Page extension, for which I just submitted a patch above. In addition to this, you can localize the names of the following special pages:

  • Special:IndexPages
  • Special:PagesWithoutScans
  • Special:ProofreadIndexOai
  • Special:ProofreadIndexOaiSchema

    (The last two don't seem to be in use on Wikimedia projects.) @Ruthven, if you can provide translations for these I can add them as well. (Oh, and translations don't have to be in AwkwardCamelCase, but can be in Normal spelling.)

    The other namespaces (author and work) are defined in wmf-config.

@jhsoby That's the translation. It's up to you to separate the words and use lowercase, or keep the AwkwardCamelCase

Special:IndexPages   --> Speciàle:Paggene Ennece
Special:PagesWithoutScans   --> Speciàle:PaggeneSenzaScan  (e.g. can be Paggene senza scan)
Special:ProofreadIndexOai   --> Speciàle:EnneceLeggiutoOai
Special:ProofreadIndexOaiSchema   --> Speciàle:EnneceLeggiutoSistemaOai
MarcoAurelio added a comment.EditedSat, Dec 8, 10:02 PM

Please note, with regards to the Talk namespaces, that the gramatically correct way to write it is posted at T210826#4807547 and is chiàcchiera. We should use that (in consistency as well to what we use already at MessagesNap.php).

Change 478942 had a related patch set uploaded (by Rafidaslam; owner: Rafid Aslam):
[analytics/refinery@master] Add nap.wikisource to whitelist.tsv

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478942

Change 478945 had a related patch set uploaded (by Rafidaslam; owner: Rafid Aslam):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Add napwikisource

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/478945

@StevenJ81 (or someone from Neapolitan Wikisource), Hi, I wanna ask about what $wgCategoryCollation (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCategoryCollation) will be used in the wiki. I guess it would be the default one (since Neapolitan Wikipedia uses the default one), but .. I'm kinda not sure, that's why I'm asking here to verify about that

@StevenJ81 (or someone from Neapolitan Wikisource), Hi, I wanna ask about what $wgCategoryCollation (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCategoryCollation) will be used in the wiki. I guess it would be the default one (since Neapolitan Wikipedia uses the default one), but .. I'm kinda not sure, that's why I'm asking here to verify about that

According to the manual, there are collations specific for each language; nap is not there but I guess the Italian collation should be pretty fine. It would be interesting to know which collation it.wikisource uses.

According to the manual, there are collations specific for each language; nap is not there but I guess the Italian collation should be pretty fine. It would be interesting to know which collation it.wikisource uses.

@Candalua From looking in the InitialiseSettings.php in mediawiki-config repo, itwikisource uses the default one. .. though itwiki uses uca-it-u-kn

@rafidaslam Given that we'll deal with volumes/collections numbering, maybe a numeric sorting will suit the project better.

Collation uca-nap-u-kn would be the best then (if there's no support for nap perhaps you could use uca-it-u-kn or uca-default-u-kn).

Alright, just updated the patch to use uca-it-u-kn for napwikisource's $wgCategoryCollation