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Edit conflicts for no reason with older revisions or yourself
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Description

There seem to be a lot of cases where users experience edit conflicts either with themselves or with others from older revisions of an article.

The generated diffs shown on these conflicts seems to only reflect the actual change that was meant to be submitted.

For a more technical background and objective data on that see T246440: High proportion of edit conflicts seem to not involve a conflicting edit and T246439: High proportion of edit conflicts seem to come from new article creation


In the original version of this ticket this was partly reproduced by doing the following:

An edit conflict when creating a new page under the following conditions:

  • I am not logged in ( when I am logged in - at least this method - does not work )
  • I create a new page with some random text ( do not submit yet )
  • I click the save buton three times very fast ( clicking very fast only twice does not seem to be enough help )
  • I get an edit conflict although it's the same user and it's identical content ( the diff is even empty here )

An edit conflict when adding a new topic to a talk page:

  • I visit a random talk page ( logged in or not )
  • I add a new topic by clicking on the Add topic link
  • I click the save buton three times very fast ( clicking very fast only twice does not seem to be enough help )
  • I get an edit conflict although it's the same user and it's identical content ( I at least get a diff although it looks weird )

Event Timeline

This happens frequently to me. Are the only current solutions to disable this tool or ignore it?

Just now got a self- edit conflict while editing an existing section (this edit):

EditConflictWithUnexpandedSigniture.png (936×1 px, 126 KB)

I am constantly experiencing this issue. I disabled all browser extensions in the latest version of Chrome (version 79.0.3945.88) except for Extension Manager. I closed ALL tabs but one. I edited my own sandbox page. And I got a false positive edit conflict. It doesn't seem to matter if I select Preview beforehand or not. It doesn't seem to matter how long I wait: 1 second or 1 minute, I usually get the false positive. I tried saving with and without a Edit Summary. This does not seem to affect the false positive issue.

I used FireFox to test editing and did not have any issues.

Anything else I can test?

Are you able to tell us if you are doing double clicks on the save button?

No I am not double clicking on Save.

More user reports incoming at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Ve4w9eebvp4a93uq. Some say it might be a broken mouse that does double clicks without the user intentionally doing one. Others say it's only the Chrome browser.

I often get false positives. I do a lot of AfC reviewing, and often the comparison tool appears and I have to check all the options to select the changes I'm trying to make. I look at the edit history and nobody else has edited the page. The most recent example was Draft:Zikai. I am using the latest production version of Chrome.

We had a similar bug a while ago which ultimately was due to broken caching. If I have more time later I may look for the bug number.

I was editing a page, and encountered an edit conflict 1 second after my own edit.

WMDE-Fisch renamed this task from Edit conflicts with yourself to Edit conflicts for no reason with older revisions or yourself.Jul 28 2021, 4:36 PM
WMDE-Fisch updated the task description. (Show Details)

FYI: I altered the ticket description slightly because the reports gathered in here do reflect way more different issues than what was originally reported. See also the linked tickets for some technical evidence on incidents like that.

I have two other reports[1], where and edit conflict screen was shown although there was no conflict - meaning that there was no revision added in between. In the first example the change was on a revision several weeks old.

https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Landesjustizpr%C3%BCfungsamt&type=revision&diff=214231877&oldid=213231869&diffmode=source

Here another one from the same user with a screenshot of the conflict UI below.

https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=213608233&oldid=213607797&title=Wilhelm_Stuckart&type=revision&diffmode=source

Bilddatei_mit_sog._Bearbeitungskonflikt.png (1×1 px, 444 KB)

[1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Technische_W%C3%BCnsche/Topw%C3%BCnsche/Bearbeitungskonflikte