Challenge Understand how the Swedish National Library , VIAF and Wikidata should work together better
Status
- VIAF is a research project and therefore its no clear focus on integrating #LIBIRSXL or day to day communication about bugs BUT it looks like #LIBRISXL will be included
- Confirmed that it was a VIAF bug and this task is closed
- looks like the future plans of VIAF is that LIBRIS will be represented with 2 IDs in VIAF but VIAF is a research project and the future will tell what is happening,,, see unanswered question
- Wikidata has since 2018 August 5
- SELIBRIS = Wikidata Property:P906 will in the future be deprecated
- LIBRIS-URI = Wikidata Property:P5587
Background: After one year nothing is shared what is planned regarding the new Swedish National Library system LIBRIS XL instead we start seeing odd things and a lack of project management/ change process ---> we are still guessing.
Solution we need a platform like Phabricator were VIAF LIBRIS Wikidata can speak/share/bugreport and see who is doing what and what is not done and what open issues we have. The new ecosystem for Authority data that is more dynamic requires that we care more about the data and understands what we agree and disagree about....
Compare the change stream of Wikidata link Wikidata recent changes
- I suggested a workshop during Wikimania 2019 (eng) in Stockholm "How to get out the most value for your organisation when being part of a fast changing open community as the loosely coupled Wikipedia echo system" link to avoid things like this task
Diary
Question LIBRIS XL 10 jun 2018 Asked a question to LIBRIS XL about plans VIAF/LIBRIS XL link
Answer LIBRIS XL 11 jun 2018: dont know right now - Anna Berggren Product owner and Libris-coordinator
Question OCLC 21 oct 2018 06:37: about plans
Answer Moreno,Hayley <morenoh@oclc.org> 6 dec. 2018 18:33 We are aware of this change and are in discussions with the National Library of Sweden on updating their links in the VIAF database. We hope to have this implement this change in the future.
Wikidata <-> LIBRIS XL
In Wikidata I requested a new Property:P5587 LIBRIS-URI dedicated for LIBRISXL --> we did a design decision to separate the old LIBRIS ID and the new LIBRIS.URI ID
Odd things at VIAF and no feedback/ specification what is planned
After a year of no feedback what will be done and we now start seeing odd things in VIAF regarding LIBRIS with both old IDs and new IDs mixed that makes current tools add LIBRIS id to the wrong Wikidata property - URI see question asked 28 Apr 2019 (Swedish).
Below how VIAF start presents LIBRISXL ID in the old LIBRIS field... after a week we get an indication that something is wrong but not how it should work and no Task ID/no place to track the change process/or a date when fixed
VIAF 8167155566470213380005
LIBRIS https://viaf.org/processed/SELIBR%7C9k6xhg7d75gscx47 i.e. New LIBRIS id in the old field
OCLC links back to LIBRIS 9k6xhg7d75gscx47 ==> get error in LIBRIS (swedish)
Answer in two emails from Anna LIBRIS 2019-05-xx: yes there is a problem that is reported to VIAF
(Magnus comment: no task id or description)
Record with error
- LIBRIS XL = 9k6xhg7d75gscx47
- WIkidata Q6063138
- VIAF = 8167155566470213380005
See also
- When implementing Linked data solutions lesson learned is that we need a dialogue and tools I have created an EPIC see {T202530: [Epic] Feedback processes and tools for data-providers}
Change management is needed
I guess this is an example of the more complex Authority Ecosystem we will see and we need
- Basic change management
- Unique identifiers for all open tasks so we can track them
- Public Workboards so we can coordinate who is doing what and when at LIBRIS/VIAF/Wikidata/,,,,,
- A prioritized public backlog --> we understand what and when things are done and can coordinate between different organisations and open communities like Wikidata
- Possibility to subscribe and get notified when tasks change at LIBRIS/VIAF/Wikidata/,,,,,
- NOTA BENE everyone can register on this site Phabricator.wikimedia.org link / the change process / latest changes
- Better project management and communication so all who are parts of the Authority ecosystem understand the plans e.g.
- user stories what will be done and how
- in this case I feel it would be interesting to understand
- what change streams will VIAF use from LIBRIS XL, how can we track changes in VIAF
- will old LIBRIS ( Property:P906) and new LIBRIS-URI (Property:P5587) be separated in VIAF?
- Today new LIBRIS XL ID is stored in VIAF in a MARC look a like format 840 see VIAF SELIBR 206651 is that the easiest place to find the LIBRISXL id ?
- today we have scripts that access VIAF that also needs LIBRIS-XL see screen dump below what I have found e.g.User:Magnus Manske/authority control.js
- looks also we have bots doing VIAF looks up e.g. Commons:Bots/Requests/KasparBot
screen dump from VIAF SELIBR 206651
Changes done in Wikidata for LIBRIS XL
- After getting no answer from the LIBRIS project we did a skilled guess and requested Property:P5587)
- Wikimedia Sweden was involved and did a small project getting a dump from LIBRIS XL and uploaded +60 000 new IDs see wmse-library-data-2018
- a request to get landing pages in LIBRIS-XL was done
- a first draft of a landing page was done --> the sv:Wikimedia template Auktoritetsdata was changed and now use LIBRIS XL
- Other bigger Wikimedia laguages was informed
- pl:Dyskusja_szablonu:Kontrola_autorytatywna#Swedish_LIBRIS_is_slowly_changing
- ru Wikipedia ru:Обсуждение_шаблона:Внешние_ссылки#Swedish_LIBRIS_is_slowly_changing
- en Wikipedia en:Template_talk:Authority_control#LIBRIS-URI
- da Wikipedia da:Skabelondiskussion:Autoritetsdata#Swedish_LIBRIS_is_slowly_changing
- fi Wikipedia fi:Keskustelu_mallineesta:Auktoriteettitunnisteet#Swedish_LIBRIS_is_slowly_changing
- no Wikipedia no:Maldiskusjon:Autoritetsdata#Swedish_LIBRIS_is_slowly_changing
- commons Template:Wikidata_Infobox
- Other bigger Wikimedia laguages was informed
Next step
- understand what is happening at VIAF
- try to convince swedish WIkipedia people that template for Authority data should be added to all pages
- understand the future plans of LIBRIS XL regarding Wikidata. Today they have nearly no external links and mostly with dbpedia as same as example
- WIkidata Q7724 August Strindberg --> JSON-LD LIBRIS XL tr574vdc33gk2cc/data.jsonld