Has somebody some questions? I am the original reporter. Martin, thanks for creating this task.

Confirmed rcshowwikidata isn't enabled as a preference or a global preference

OOI, does turning it on and off again (saving in between, of course), fix it?

@Ammarpad Well, I don't experience this problem, that's why the user-specific title.

In T224426#5214635, @Reedy wrote:

Confirmed rcshowwikidata isn't enabled as a preference or a global preference

OOI, does turning it on and off again (saving in between, of course), fix it?

No, I still see edits of categories and Wikidata. Btw. what is OOI?

In T224426#5215171, @Patriccck wrote:

In T224426#5214635, @Reedy wrote:

Confirmed rcshowwikidata isn't enabled as a preference or a global preference

OOI, does turning it on and off again (saving in between, of course), fix it?

No, I still see edits of categories and Wikidata. Btw. what is OOI?

Thanks for checking that. OOI is probably out of interest.

I can reproduce this.
Growth team: Is this possibly related to the new watchlist? Is there anyone who can help me dig into this more?

In T224426#5215875, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote:

I can reproduce this.
Growth team: Is this possibly related to the new watchlist? Is there anyone who can help me dig into this more?

Thank you Lydia. Renamed to reflect reality.

And one more rename, I forgot I have filters to display only unpatrolled edits, which doesn't include WD edits. So, can reproduce it too.

The Growth team will look into this task and plan to work on this based on our investigation.

Thank you!

Selection of Preferences-Recent changes options applies only to default filter set on Recent changes. Selecting the option - 'Hide Wikidata' will not hide the filter wikidata, or wikidata entries if they will come in the result set of other filter selection.

For example, if I select in Preferences-Recent Changes the following options

• Show Wikidata edits in recent changes
• Hide minor edits from recent changes
• Hide categorization of pages
• Highlight likely problem edits with colors and an "r" for "needs review"
• Show only likely problem edits (and hide probably good edits)

And then I go to Recent changes, I'll see the following filters defined as default filter set (the true default filters - without user selecting options - are in red circles).

If I did not click the option "Show Wikidata edits in recent changes" - Wikidata edits still be shown as result of applying other filters - Humans(not bots) or ORES filters. The present logic for filters does not work as "show me edits by humans but exclude Wikidata edits".

@Etonkovidova Hi, I can see "Wikidata edits" in your second screenshot. However, in the screenshot from task's description (F29258444), there's nothing saying "Wikidata". I understand that the filters understands "Wikidata edit" as "human edit", even that, I think preferences should be honored, unless explicitly overriden by adding "Wikidata edits" to display, as in your screenshot.

@Urbanecm

In T224426#5219687, @Urbanecm wrote:

@Etonkovidova Hi, I can see "Wikidata edits" in your second screenshot. However, in the screenshot from task's description (F29258444), there's nothing saying "Wikidata". I understand that the filters understands "Wikidata edit" as "human edit", even that, I think preferences should be honored, unless explicitly overriden by adding "Wikidata edits" to display, as in your screenshot.

My screenshot illustrates only the point that selecting the option "Show wikidata edits" option in Preferences-Recent changes will include Wikidata filter in default filters - nothing more.

In the task description screenshot - wikidata entries appear because Human(non bot) filter was selected and Wikidata edits were made by humans, as you mentioned in the comment above.

I agree that "Show wikidata edits" when not enabled should exclude wikidata edits entirely from all filters' result set. Two other options "Hide categorization of pages" and "Hide minor edits from recent changes" behave the same as "Show wikidata edits".
The real bug is actually there - the option "Show wikidata edits" is not enabled and "Hide categorization" is enabled and no RC filters are selected, yet wikidata edits and changes in categories are still displayed e.g.
the following options selections

will result that RC page disregards these options entirely

After help (using e-mail) from @Urbanecm, I don't see Wikidata & categorization edits. Thanks!

In T224426#5221895, @Patriccck wrote:

After help (using e-mail) from @Urbanecm, I don't see Wikidata & categorization edits. Thanks!

@Patriccck - did you find some workaround for specific filter set you're using?

The workaround was to add "edited pages", "logged actions" and "created pages" to his filterset.

In T224426#5223042, @Urbanecm wrote:

The workaround was to add "edited pages", "logged actions" and "created pages" to his filterset.

Thx! Yes, these filters are default filters and it works for the specific situation (since wikidata edits are not classified as Page creation, Page edits, or Logged entries). In my opinion, the more general issue with making the logic clearer for "Show wikidata edits" and other Preferences-RC options still needs to be re-evaluated.

In T224426#5223067, @Etonkovidova wrote:

In T224426#5223042, @Urbanecm wrote:

The workaround was to add "edited pages", "logged actions" and "created pages" to his filterset.

Thx! Yes, these filters are default filters and it works for the specific situation (since wikidata edits are not classified as Page creation, Page edits, or Logged entries). In my opinion, the more general issue with making the logic clearer for "Show wikidata edits" and other Preferences-RC options still needs to be re-evaluated.

I think it too.

@Catrope will determine how to approach this

The preference is labeled "Show Wikidata edits *by default* in recent changes". If you don't have it enabled, the default state of the RC filters when you open RC will be such that Wikidata edits aren't shown, but if you then change the filters they may end up being shown. I'm not sure how we could make this clearer.

What is a bit confusing is that the way that this excludes Wikidata edits is by filtering for everything else (Page creations, Page edits, Log actions, etc), because the interface always tells you what it is showing (not what it isn't showing). If you remove these filters, all types of changes will be shown, including Wikidata edits, and that confuses some people. But I don't think there's much to do here, unless there are relatively simple ways to clarify this.

The Growth-Team will revisit this task sometime this fiscal year.