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Get the Growth experiment for the Hungarian Wikipedia
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Description

First

  • Post on Village Pump and reach consensus
  • Have a group of people who will enroll in this project as mentors (helping on the help desk or as direct mentors)

Then

Translations

Help panel

Homepage

Mentors

  • Create if necessary or update the mentors list
    • the format is [[User:Name]]|Description (be careful about the position of the | in the example!)
    • add the following sentence at the top:

Please introduce yourself in a short way (240 characters max) so that newcomers will know more about you. To increase focus, your message will not render wikitext or links. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth/Communities/How to introduce yourself as a mentor|See examples and best practices.]]

Understanding First Day

  • The list of namespaces where page title will not be recorded for privacy reasons (namespaces 0, 1, 6, 7 are mandatory). =

Event Timeline

Samat created this task.Aug 14 2019, 1:03 PM
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Tgr moved this task from Backlog to Huwiki on the User-Tgr board.
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Trizek-WMF updated the task description. (Show Details)Aug 15 2019, 12:51 PM
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kostajh moved this task from Inbox to Q1 2019-20 on the Growth-Team board.Aug 16 2019, 2:56 PM
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Moving to Q1 per parent task tag.

Samat added a comment.Aug 31 2019, 9:21 AM

@Trizek-WMF we are very much aware of this task, and I wish to make it with top priority (I really believe this will be one of the most important parts of our project, and one of the most important tools to reach our goals), but right now we have less than two weeks to prepare a report for the WMF about the stage of the project, and we try to fulfill all other (docents of) promises (researches, statistics, surveys and interviews, events and their reports, etc.) before that deadline we made in the project application. I hope it will be satisfying for everybody, but it is a lot of work currently.

The community consultation is running and it looks we will reach consensus in a few days. We don't have too many missing (necessary) translations, and we already have some volunteers for mentoring (and we try to convince more community members continuously). This task is the first, which we will focus on after the report. (Maybe, we will have progress already earlier.)

Thank you for the update @Samat, and all the best concerning the report! Please update this task when you will have some news. :)

Trizek-WMF updated the task description. (Show Details)Sep 5 2019, 10:35 AM
Trizek-WMF updated the task description. (Show Details)Wed, Sep 18, 6:37 PM

Any update?

I see that the interface is 88% translated, good job!

Interface 100% translated! Congratulations.

Tgr added a comment.Thu, Sep 26, 10:22 AM

Any update?

This temporarily took a back seat due to things that have a stricter deadline. Finding translators is something we never had much success with (outside of Translatewiki.net where there are a few fairly active Hungarian translators), and of the people who normally do this kind of thing, Samat had to work on higher-priority tasks in the editor retention project (survey work, the midpoint grant report and a patroller training event happening this weekend), and I have been tied down with movement strategy. We'll probably get back to it in a week or so.

Samat updated the task description. (Show Details)Sun, Oct 6, 9:49 AM
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Trizek-WMF added a comment.EditedThu, Oct 10, 8:11 AM

@Samat, good job concerning the preparation of the features. Only a few elements are missing, and I need to know when you plan to finish it. It is to define a schedule for the deployments, since all interested wiki are finishing these initial steps at the same time.

I'm not familiar with FlaggedRevs. How would this extension interfere with the Growth team experiments, or newcomers first steps in general? (related to T209224: Analyze effect of huwiki FlaggedRevs configuration change on problematic edits and new user retention by @Tgr)

Samat updated the task description. (Show Details)Mon, Oct 14, 9:16 PM
Samat added a comment.EditedMon, Oct 14, 9:25 PM

@Samat, good job concerning the preparation of the features. Only a few elements are missing, and I need to know when you plan to finish it. It is to define a schedule for the deployments, since all interested wiki are finishing these initial steps at the same time.

@Trizek-WMF thank you :) I believe, until end of this week we can finish every necessary task for deploying the experiment.

If it possible, it would be useful to implement for a short period of time only opt-in way (so anybody can switch on in the preferences, but it is not default for the newcomers), in order we can check through that everything works (and translated) as it is expected.

I'm not familiar with FlaggedRevs. How would this extension interfere with the Growth team experiments, or newcomers first steps in general? (related to T209224: Analyze effect of huwiki FlaggedRevs configuration change on problematic edits and new user retention by @Tgr)

@Tgr I don't see why and where could be a conflict between FlaggedRevs and the Growth experiment, but we can try and test in the proposed introductory period, if you don't see it otherwise.

Tgr added a comment.Mon, Oct 14, 11:27 PM

If we end up restoring the old FlaggedRevs configuration where unreviewed edits are hidden from readers (decision still TBD), maybe there are some interface messages would have to be changed to clarify that. Also technically the impact module would become a bit misleading (as the views would actually have to be counted from the date of the review, not the date of the edit) but I doubt anyone cares about that. It's unlikely that FlaggedRevs would cause any technical difficulties. (And in any case, arwiki is using it, so we'd have noticed by now.)

@Samat, good job concerning the preparation of the features. Only a few elements are missing, and I need to know when you plan to finish it. It is to define a schedule for the deployments, since all interested wiki are finishing these initial steps at the same time.

@Trizek-WMF thank you :) I believe, until end of this week we can finish every necessary task for deploying the experiment.

Good news! You're almost done: you just have the "Help panel" and "Mentors" sections left.

If it possible, it would be useful to implement for a short period of time only opt-in way (so anybody can switch on in the preferences, but it is not default for the newcomers), in order we can check through that everything works (and translated) as it is expected.

It is definitely possible.

On our side, when the entire process will be finished, we will:

  1. create all the needed subtasks for developers and configuration
  2. deploy it as you request, for tests
  3. deploy it for newcomers
Samat updated the task description. (Show Details)Tue, Oct 15, 10:14 PM