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Template:Fornminne on Commons needs an update as the current link leads to the old Fornsök, after update it should link to the new Fornsök.

It might also need an update as the new Fornsök doesn't show the old ID.

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After looking at it I don't actually think we should update the links in the template. These point to kulturarvsdata.se, that in turn resolves it to old Fornsök. I would assume that once RAÄ get their horses in order kulturarvsdata.se will start resolving these ids to the new Fornsök.

@AxelPettersson_WMSE I think we should be fine with our old instructions as long as we DON'T update our links to new Fornsök. To be extra clear we could add a small note (next to the Fornsök link) about not going to the new verison.

@Abbe98 The fact that you can neither see nor search using the old ids means that the WLM workflow is broken for anyone using new Fornsök. Do you know what the plans are around this, alternatively could you put us in touch with someone who might?

We are very close to redirect the links(ETA late September), the in October all new Fornminne data will be available in K-samsök/Wikidata.

We are very close to redirect the links(ETA late September), the in October all new Fornminne data will be available in K-samsök/Wikidata.

Thanks. Do you know if there are plans to expose the id in new Fornsök?

@Abbe98 The fact that you can neither see nor search using the old ids means that the WLM workflow is broken for anyone using new Fornsök. Do you know what the plans are around this, alternatively could you put us in touch with someone who might?

A major issue here is that there is a lot less data in the new version, when the data is available in K-samsök we would need to do some major work on the lists/Wikidata.

Do you know if there are plans to expose the id in new Fornsök?

I do not think there is any plans to do so at this point. With a bit of lobbying it might happen.

@Eric_Luth_WMSE yes per my comment in T260971. I do however not have the rights on commons to make or test the fix. Also I think some documentation might still need an update if implemented.

Actually following this someone will need to update the Campaign. So the UUID is presented as an alternative input.

Actually following this someone will need to update the Campaign. So the UUID is presented as an alternative input.

I can update the campaign but I'm pretty sure all that needs updating is the description of the ID-field. And that is in the MediaWiki namespace 1 2 3 so needs an Interface admin (usually they are quick to come if you provide the right caller template).

There will be some issues with the Monuments Database backend (used to e.g. suggest new images to add to the lists or to highlight images without id and to categorised uploaded images). Since only old ids are in the lists UUIDs won't work there. It shouldn't actively break anything but these images will need to be manually handled (maybe add a tracking category to these for now).

@Alicia_Fagerving_WMSE is taking a look at the suggested template update.

Looks good. One thought. Can we take this opportunity to track images where id length is neither 14 nor 36? Historically the padding has ensured these (e.g. this) were sorted in the start/end of Category:Archaeological_monuments_in_Sweden_with_known_IDs but in the update we are now dropping that padding.

Posted an edit request to the template and the Mwe-upwiz-campaigns-wlm-se-fornmin-id strigs.

Note to self (or anyone who's first), update https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:G%C3%B6teborg_100_-_1.jpg with correct template once it's been edited.

Posted an edit request to the template and the Mwe-upwiz-campaigns-wlm-se-fornmin-id strigs.

Note to self (or anyone who's first), update https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:G%C3%B6teborg_100_-_1.jpg with correct template once it's been edited.

Done, I think (the resulting “this is a picture of…” box looks correct to me, at least).

Posted an edit request to the template and the Mwe-upwiz-campaigns-wlm-se-fornmin-id strigs.

Note to self (or anyone who's first), update https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:G%C3%B6teborg_100_-_1.jpg with correct template once it's been edited.

Done, I think (the resulting “this is a picture of…” box looks correct to me, at least).

And the link resolves correctly! Thank you :)

ping @Abbe98 if you would like to update the documentation