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Give suppressredirect right to filemovers on Commons
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Proposals#Allow file movers to suppress redirects

There is already consensus for a new user group with this right (which could be named "extended filemover"), consensus for giving the right to all filemovers will be determined at Proposals#Limit suppressredirect for filemovers to a new user group.

Update: All filemovers should be granted suppressredirect. But I think we should get a Chinese translation of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Filemovermessage/i18n first.

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Related Gerrit Patches:
operations/mediawiki-config : masterGive commonswiki filemovers `suppressredirect` rights

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AlexisJazz updated the task description. (Show Details)Thu, Oct 24, 9:01 AM
AlexisJazz changed the task status from Open to Stalled.Thu, Oct 24, 9:05 AM
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DannyS712 changed the task status from Stalled to Open.Sat, Nov 2, 10:20 PM

@DannyS712 If there could be some sort of notification before this is implemented I would appreciated it. I have email notifications enabled so just a simple post in this ticket would be fine. That way I can time the mass message to when this is deployed. Don't want people to accidentally stumble into this right before they understand what is expected of them. We also don't have the message translated fully. A Chinese translation is still being sought.

@Majora Just to clarify, do you mean a notification to you?

Masumrezarock100 moved this task from Incoming to Backlog on the Commons board.Sat, Nov 2, 11:57 PM

Perhaps @Liuxinyu970226 can do the Chinese translation? He is inactive on phabricator since April though.

@Majora Just to clarify, do you mean a notification to you?

Since I'm the one planning on sending the mass message, yes. Although the list is set up and anyone with the right to send mass messages can technically send it.

@Majora Just to clarify, do you mean a notification to you?

Since I'm the one planning on sending the mass message, yes. Although the list is set up and anyone with the right to send mass messages can technically send it.

I'm sorry, which mass message are we talking about?

I'm sorry, which mass message are we talking about?

This is what he will send to all file movers to notify them about this change. We need more translation since not everyone can speak English.

I can do a Chinese translation as a last resort tomorrow, but it might not be great / idiomatic and will probably sound weird.

On a side note, it's interesting to see how presenting an actual problem creates completely different discussions.

AlexisJazz updated the task description. (Show Details)Sun, Nov 3, 8:44 AM
Majora added a comment.Sun, Nov 3, 6:06 PM

I can do a Chinese translation as a last resort tomorrow, but it might not be great / idiomatic and will probably sound weird.
On a side note, it's interesting to see how presenting an actual problem creates completely different discussions.

Please don't feel pressured to do a translation that you don't want to do. This isn't an urgent matter that has to be resolved immediately. We can wait a little while longer to find a translator. I would never want you to feel forced to do something that you are uncomfortable with.

DannyS712 changed the task status from Open to Stalled.Mon, Nov 4, 6:52 PM

Given the discussion about the Chinese translation, I'll wait until everyone is ready

Please don't feel pressured to do a translation that you don't want to do. This isn't an urgent matter that has to be resolved immediately. We can wait a little while longer to find a translator. I would never want you to feel forced to do something that you are uncomfortable with.

Yeah, translation is a somewhat underappreciated task that a lot eventually get bored of. It's not surprising we aren't getting responses.

In any case, I don't want this task to be blocked on a translation for too long; I'll try my best this weekend if nobody else get it done.

AlexisJazz added a subscriber: Roy17.EditedTue, Nov 5, 7:57 AM

Please don't feel pressured to do a translation that you don't want to do. This isn't an urgent matter that has to be resolved immediately. We can wait a little while longer to find a translator. I would never want you to feel forced to do something that you are uncomfortable with.

Yeah, translation is a somewhat underappreciated task that a lot eventually get bored of. It's not surprising we aren't getting responses.
In any case, I don't want this task to be blocked on a translation for too long; I'll try my best this weekend if nobody else get it done.

I made a request at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/zh#Translation_help. Perhaps @Roy17 could help?

Majora changed the task status from Stalled to Open.Wed, Nov 6, 5:31 PM

It appears that @Roy17 completed the translation the other day. Thank you! @DannyS712 looks like you are good to go unless there are any other issues. I've taken the liberty of switching the task back to open, hope that is alright.

Change 549194 had a related patch set uploaded (by DannyS712; owner: DannyS712):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Give commonswiki filemovers suppressredirect rights

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/549194

Jony added a subscriber: Jony.Wed, Nov 6, 8:52 PM

Change 549194 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Give commonswiki filemovers suppressredirect rights

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/549194

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2019-11-07T12:04:37Z] <urbanecm@deploy1001> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: SWAT: 5253dec: Give commonswiki filemovers suppressredirect rights (T236348) (duration: 01m 03s)

Urbanecm closed this task as Resolved.Thu, Nov 7, 12:10 PM