[Epic] Improvements to talk pages (read mode)
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	Oct 30 2019, 3:23 PM

Description

⚠️ This task is still in draft mode. Expect the "User stories" section to evolve as we receive and learn from contributors' experiences with v1.0, v1.1 and v2.0: T235592, T236916 and T235592

Rationale

T235592's task description contains the overarching rationale for why this feature is prioritized.

This particular version – v2.0 – is intended to enhance the talk page read experience to help contributors more easily understand Talk Pages are spaces for discussion and how to participate in existing conversations.

User stories

As a contributor I can...

Easily understand who the author of a post/comment is
Easily differentiate between different replies and comments on the page
Intuitively know how to reply to a specific post/comment
Easily understand when content within a discussion was posted

Details

Platform(s): mobile web + desktop
Namespaces: all talk namespaces

"Done"

Mockups are created for the user stories and platforms listed in the "User stories" and "Details" sections above.

References

"When they are looking around for how to have a conversation with the other contributors to an article, they get confused and distracted by all the calls to action and lack of information hierarchy of a discussion/talk page, and of Wikipedia in general. So, many times, readers with no talk page experience get lost, and don’t understand how to accomplish the task until they have been patient enough to do some trial and error and discover what to do." | Source

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		Open		None	T249579 [EPIC] Usability improvements: make the actions, activity and content within talk pages easier to understand
		Open		None	T236918 [Epic] Improvements to talk pages (read mode)

Event Timeline

@iamjessklein I've updated the task description to include the decisions we arrived at in the OWC/Reply-Versioning.

This task should now be considered the "single source of truth" for what we will end up creating in v2.1.

• ppelberg mentioned this in T233443: [Epic] Reply Tool.Oct 31 2019, 6:08 PM

To consider:

Desktop: add an icon to signify replying functionality near existing reply link
Mobile: replace existing reply link with an icon to signify replying

• ppelberg mentioned this in T235592: Replies v1.0: Create mockups.Nov 4 2019, 11:20 PM

Jc86035 subscribed.Nov 5 2019, 1:55 PM

• ppelberg updated the task description. (Show Details)Nov 6 2019, 11:46 PM

Updating the "User stories" section of the task description to include the following:

"Easily understand when content within a discussion was posted"

• ppelberg mentioned this in T239851: Document design constraints for re-styling talk pages in read mode.Dec 24 2019, 6:18 PM

• ppelberg mentioned this in T240360: Determine our approach for displaying date and time a comment was made, in a user's local timezone and preferred date format.Jan 8 2020, 10:10 PM

• ppelberg added a subtask: T240360: Determine our approach for displaying date and time a comment was made, in a user's local timezone and preferred date format.

• ppelberg mentioned this in T235923: Replies v1.0: release replying to specific comments.Jan 11 2020, 1:51 AM

• ppelberg renamed this task from Replies v2.1: create mockups to Improvements to talk pages (read mode).Jan 22 2020, 1:39 AM

• ppelberg renamed this task from Improvements to talk pages (read mode) to [Epic] Improvements to talk pages (read mode).

• ppelberg removed a parent task: T235593: Replies v2.0: create mockups.

JTannerWMF edited projects, added Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board); removed Editing-team.Feb 10 2020, 1:47 PM

JTannerWMF moved this task from Needs Discussion / Investigation to Quarterly Goals on the Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board) board.

JTannerWMF moved this task from 📚 Backlog to 😲 Epics on the Editing Design board.Mar 11 2020, 10:59 AM

Esanders added a project: DiscussionTools.Jun 25 2020, 12:53 PM

MBinder_WMF edited projects, added Editing-team (Kanban Board); removed Editing-team (Q3 2019-2020 Kanban Board).Jul 9 2020, 4:58 PM

JTannerWMF moved this task from Incoming to Main quests on the Editing-team (Kanban Board) board.Jul 9 2020, 4:58 PM

• ppelberg edited projects, added Editing-team (Tracking); removed Editing-team (Kanban Board), OWC2020.Feb 9 2021, 4:17 PM

• ppelberg moved this task from Backlog to Triaged on the DiscussionTools board.

• ppelberg moved this task from Backlog to FY2020-21 on the Editing-team (Tracking) board.

• iamjessklein awarded a token.Feb 16 2021, 2:08 PM

• ppelberg added a parent task: T249579: [EPIC] Usability improvements: make the actions, activity and content within talk pages easier to understand.Jul 24 2021, 1:03 AM

• ppelberg removed a subtask: T240360: Determine our approach for displaying date and time a comment was made, in a user's local timezone and preferred date format.Aug 27 2021, 4:52 PM

• ppelberg removed a subtask: T242563: Research questions: enhancements to read mode.

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