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Clicking a redlink to a protected page causes VisualEditor to load, but hold any information about the page being protected
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Steps to reproduce

  1. Log out of your accounts
  2. go to
  3. Find any redlink there and click it
  4. VisualEditor loads, doesn't show any first-sight visible information about page being protected, and user can't write


VisualEditor shows "page is protected" kind of message, similar to what code editor does.


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Urbanecm created this task.Jan 15 2020, 5:09 PM
Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. · View Herald TranscriptJan 15 2020, 5:09 PM

There is actually a message about protection in the notices popup, but you have to scroll down to see it:

(this text is

In my eyes the problem is primarily caused by the extremely long notice about creating a new page that is shown before that one ( It's very long compared to the default text ( and even compared to English Wikipedia, which is usually very verbose (

Maybe we should change the order or these notices to improve this.

But also, please consider rephrasing or shortening that notice. I don't speak Czech but I had a look at it with automated translation:

  • The last bullet point (saying that article might have been deleted) is probably useless because this information is also provided by the other notices (in both editors)
  • The second-to-last (about database delay) is probably also not helpful, as I don't think such issues are common today (it was added in 2005 with an edit summary referring to "current database problems":

I get it, but how can it be relevant to the fact I can't type in that editor?

Because the page is protected, we do the same for any protected page, and so does the wikitext editor (the effect is a bit weird here since the page is empty).