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Update Junicode webfont and also support JunisX when available
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Problem:

There are special glyphs present in https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:The_record_interpreter-_a_collection_of_abbreviations.djvu
There is no font to display them.

For example: Compare the presented text here against the scanned output.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:The_record_interpreter-_a_collection_of_abbreviations.djvu/13
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:The_record_interpreter-_a_collection_of_abbreviations.djvu/14
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:The_record_interpreter-_a_collection_of_abbreviations.djvu/15

On page15, specfically the behaviour of the h in thro. The tilde should be on the upper ascender of the h and not across the h as currently. I've tested this against JunisX , where the desired rendering is present.

More of the 'special' glyphs appear in this image - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/The_record_interpreter-_a_collection_of_abbreviations.djvu/page24-2344px-The_record_interpreter-_a_collection_of_abbreviations.djvu.jpg

Request:

The updated JuniusX font should be provided as an option via ULS.

The JuniusX font is present at - https://github.com/psb1558/Junicode-New/tree/master/fonts (unstable version)

After asking about the license in https://github.com/psb1558/Junicode-New/issues/5 the license is now effectively OFL as per https://github.com/psb1558/Junicode-New/blob/master/OFL.txt

More info:

Upstream issue: https://github.com/psb1558/Junicode-New/issues/1

Per the advice I obtained from the developers of an updated Junicode font ( https://github.com/psb1558/Junicode-New/blob/master/Record_Interpreter_notes.pdf ). I was advised to use some specfic encodings. These are not widely supported by font's other than Junicode. In addition some variants used and the desired behaviour or certain combining diacritical's to produce such variants is only present in JuniusX.

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SubjectRepoBranchLines +/-
Update Junicode font to 2.100mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelectormaster+10 -10
Update Junicode to 1.003mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelectormaster+9 -9
Customize query in gerrit

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ShakespeareFan00 created this task.May 18 2020, 12:04 PM
Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. · View Herald TranscriptMay 18 2020, 12:04 PM
ShakespeareFan00 updated the task description. (Show Details)May 18 2020, 12:18 PM
ShakespeareFan00 removed subscribers: Upstream, UniversalLanguageSelector.May 18 2020, 12:25 PM
Aklapper removed a subscriber: All-and-every-Wikisource.May 18 2020, 12:46 PM
Aklapper changed the task status from Open to Stalled.May 18 2020, 12:54 PM

Font support for specialist glyphs present in https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:The_record_interpreter-_a_collection_of_abbreviations.djvu

Hi, can you please link to a specific page with such glyphs so someone else can see the problem without having to go through all pages? Please see and follow https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug when reporting issues, as requested before.

I am requesting that the updated JuniusX font be provided as an option via ULS or an appropriate mechanism

Please link to the JuniusX font and its license.

ShakespeareFan00 updated the task description. (Show Details)May 18 2020, 2:48 PM
ShakespeareFan00 updated the task description. (Show Details)May 18 2020, 2:59 PM
RhinosF1 subscribed.May 18 2020, 3:01 PM

Could Project Tags be added to the task so others can find it easier?

ShakespeareFan00 added a comment.May 18 2020, 3:11 PM

Which do you suggest? (re Project tags) . The one I added for Wikisource was removed.

RhinosF1 added a comment.May 18 2020, 3:14 PM
In T253006#6145129, @ShakespeareFan00 wrote:

Which do you suggest? (re Project tags) . The one I added for Wikisource was removed.

You added it as a subscriber not project but I’m not sure where fonts are defined.

Aklapper added a project: UniversalLanguageSelector.May 18 2020, 3:14 PM
Aklapper moved this task from Backlog to Adding fonts on the UniversalLanguageSelector board.
ShakespeareFan00 added a project: Upstream.EditedMay 18 2020, 3:18 PM

See also T173573 and T187096

ShakespeareFan00 added a comment.May 18 2020, 3:19 PM
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Aklapper renamed this task from Update Junicode font provided on Wikimedia , and also suppot JunisX when available.. to Update Junicode webfont and also support JunisX when available.May 18 2020, 3:57 PM
ShakespeareFan00 updated the task description. (Show Details)May 18 2020, 5:21 PM
ShakespeareFan00 removed a project: Upstream.
Aklapper updated the task description. (Show Details)May 18 2020, 5:44 PM
ShakespeareFan00 added a comment.May 18 2020, 5:46 PM

Thank you for the re-format :)

Aklapper added a comment.May 18 2020, 5:46 PM

@ShakespeareFan00: I've removed updates (as in "now the license is...") from the task description as it's quite confusing without knowing that the summary was edited. That's more what comments are for. I've rewritten the summary to be hopefully clearer. Please use sections such as "steps to reproduce", "expected outcome" and "actual outcome" when creating tasks to avoid misunderstandings. Thanks a lot! :)

Aklapper changed the task status from Stalled to Open.May 18 2020, 5:47 PM
Inductiveload added a project: All-and-every-Wikisource.Jul 21 2021, 8:43 PM
ShakespeareFan00 mentioned this in T287055: Customised font for simulating old printing.Aug 7 2021, 1:43 PM
TheresNoTime removed a subscriber: RhinosF1.Dec 15 2022, 11:36 PM
gerritbot added a comment.May 17 2023, 9:07 AM

Change 920641 had a related patch set uploaded (by Nikerabbit; author: Nikerabbit):

[mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector@master] Update Junicode to 1.003

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/920641

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.May 17 2023, 9:07 AM
Nikerabbit mentioned this in T187096: Add Foulis Greek.May 17 2023, 9:08 AM
Nikerabbit subscribed.May 17 2023, 9:11 AM

As far as I can see, JuniusX is still in beta and no proper releases has been made. I'm inclined to decline this task until that happens.

ShakespeareFan00 added a comment.May 17 2023, 9:17 AM

The JuniusX name was dropped:-

The current version is that in the repository: https://github.com/psb1558/Junicode-font/tree/master/fonts It's currently at 1.057

ShakespeareFan00 changed the task status from Open to Stalled.May 17 2023, 9:23 AM

Marking this as stalled, until there is another "stable" release of Junicode.

gerritbot added a comment.May 17 2023, 2:31 PM

Change 920641 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector@master] Update Junicode to 1.003

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/920641

ReleaseTaggerBot added a project: MW-1.41-notes (1.41.0-wmf.10; 2023-05-23).May 17 2023, 3:00 PM
Maintenance_bot removed a project: Patch-For-Review.May 17 2023, 3:11 PM
Nikerabbit merged a task: T338030: Update Junicode to / install webfont Junicode Two Beta 1.058.Jun 2 2023, 2:13 PM
Nikerabbit added a subscriber: silmeth.
silmeth added a comment.Jun 2 2023, 2:33 PM

Junicode Two Beta 1.058 (the current version, released recently) fixes all the problems with Irish Gaelic type texts. It also contains post-Unicode 14 characters (like “Old Polish o” ⟨Ꟁ, ꟁ⟩, for which various hacky work-arounds are currently inconsistently used on Polish Wikisource, see T338030 for links with details).

It has replaced the stable Junicode fonts in various operating systems already (Debian and Ubuntu come with Junicode Two Beta in their fonts-junicode package, having replaced the old Junicode completely).

I’m not sure if there are any drawbacks for Wikisource projects to using the new “beta” release compared to the old “stable” font – but even if there is, since the new font uses different family name (Junicode vs Junicode Two Beta) they could be kept separate and the new version used only where it does not cause additional problems.

Seeing that no officially “stable” release might come for years, and the current “beta” version would help Irish texts a lot and probably would be helpful for Old Polish too, IMO it’d be worth adding Junicode Two Beta as it is (and updating to a “stable” release when it happens, if it ever happens).

Ankry subscribed.Jun 2 2023, 9:07 PM
Nikerabbit added a comment.Jun 6 2023, 12:44 PM

If the upstream is not doing a proper release, I interpret that either as they they don't think it is ready or the upstream is not of a good quality. Your example of Debian is providing a counter argument to this, though.

ShakespeareFan00 added a comment.Aug 19 2023, 12:58 PM

https://github.com/psb1558/Junicode-font/releases/tag/v2.000

silmeth added a comment.Oct 10 2023, 8:42 AM

2.100 has been officially released now: https://github.com/psb1558/Junicode-font/releases/tag/v2.100

gerritbot added a comment.Oct 17 2023, 7:20 AM

Change 966445 had a related patch set uploaded (by Nikerabbit; author: Nikerabbit):

[mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector@master] Update Junicode font to 2.100

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/966445

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Oct 17 2023, 7:20 AM
Nikerabbit changed the task status from Stalled to In Progress.Oct 17 2023, 7:21 AM
Nikerabbit claimed this task.
Nikerabbit triaged this task as Low priority.
Nikerabbit added projects: Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-Team (Language-2023-October-December).
Nikerabbit set the point value for this task to 1.
Nikerabbit moved this task from Quarter Backlog to In Review on the Language-Team (Language-2023-October-December) board.
Nikerabbit added a project: Localization Infrastructure FY2023-24.Oct 17 2023, 7:23 AM
Nikerabbit moved this task from Backlog to Support (LM) on the Localization Infrastructure FY2023-24 board.Oct 17 2023, 11:30 AM
gerritbot added a comment.Oct 17 2023, 1:48 PM

Change 966445 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector@master] Update Junicode font to 2.100

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/966445

ReleaseTaggerBot added a project: MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.2; 2023-10-24).Oct 17 2023, 2:00 PM
Maintenance_bot removed a project: Patch-For-Review.Oct 17 2023, 2:11 PM
Nikerabbit moved this task from In Review to Check after deployment on the Language-Team (Language-2023-October-December) board.Oct 19 2023, 6:53 AM
Nikerabbit closed this task as Resolved.Oct 23 2023, 1:09 PM
Nikerabbit moved this task from Check after deployment to Done on the Language-Team (Language-2023-October-December) board.

Tested on translatewiki.net that the font loads when enabled manually via ULS.

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