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Catalogue the messages people encounter while using talk pages
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Description

This task involves the work with documenting the existing messages people can encounter on talk pages.

The above is related to the broader effort of ensuring, whenever possible [i], that the language people encounter on talk pages compliments/reinforces the purpose of the pages: to communicate with other people on Wikipedia.

Messages to audit

Below is an incomplete list of messages people encounter when using talk pages:

I. Messages

  • Full page editing
    • Welcome dialog
    • Abandon edit dialog
  • DiscussionTools
    • Abandon edit edialog
    • Wikitext detected (Reply tool's visual mode)

II. Circumstances that could affect the messages people see

  • Account state:
    • Logged in
    • Logged out:
  • Platform
    • Mobile
    • Desktop
  • A wiki's editing preference:
    • Two tabs
    • SET

Documentation

What information should be contained in the document that is produced.

EnvironmentTriggering eventDelivery mechanismContentsScreenshot
Desktop, logged outClick "Edit" anywhere on the pageWelcome dialogTitle: Welcome to Wikipedia; Body: Anyone can edit, and every improvement helps. Thank you for helping the world discover more!; Call to action: Start editing

Links

This link contains every message and a description for each one of where it's used:
https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&group=ext-discussiontools&language=es&filter=&optional=1&action=translate

Done

  • A document is produced that contains what is described in the "Documentation" section above

i. We are saying "wherever possible" because there are some instances where the discussion-specific language would be limiting and potentially confusing.

Event Timeline

DLynch added a subscriber: DLynch.Jul 30 2020, 4:27 PM

It's worth pointing to the translatewiki list here: https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&group=ext-discussiontools&language=es&filter=&optional=1&action=translate

That's generated from the code, and contains every message and a description for each one of where it's used.

ppelberg added a subscriber: iamjessklein.

It's worth pointing to the translatewiki list here: https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&group=ext-discussiontools&language=es&filter=&optional=1&action=translate

That's generated from the code, and contains every message and a description for each one of where it's used.

Excellent. Thank you, David. I've added the above to the task description. Perhaps then the "cataloguing" portion is unnecessary and instead a review is what's required.

I'm also adding this to Editing Design per the conversation @iamjessklein and I had this morning wherein we determined this ticket is best led by Design.

Action

  • Assuming cataloguing the messages is NOT needed, @ppelberg to reframe this task as being about reviewing the existing interface messaging and determining what changes ought to be made.
ppelberg updated the task description. (Show Details)Sep 16 2020, 8:24 PM