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German Wikivoyage: make extensions Popups (Navigation popups) and Reference Previews available
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The readers of the German Wikivoyage decided to add the Popups extension and to activate the beta feature Reference Previews which uses the Popups extension. I think we should use the same preferences like the English and Hebrew Wikivoyage.

The result of the survey can be found here:

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At the German Wikivoyage, Reading preferences (Enable page previews (quick previews of a topic while reading a page)) are not available.

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I don't think there is any problem with this from a page previews perspective but not sure about ReferencePreviews...

Thanks for the tag @Jdlrobson ! We did a quick check and can see the Navigation Popups gadget name on de wikivoyage is customised, so the only concern we would have is to ensure that it's included in the $wgPopupsConflictingNavPopupsGadgetName config. Otherwise happy to be included.

@RolandUnger Reference previews are now also available as a default feature of the pop ups extension, but the settings are still independent of page previews (meaning you can turn both types of previews on and off individually within your preferences). Would you be interested in having reference previews as a default feature instead of a beta feature as a part of the Popups extension? You can see this in action e.g. on German Wikipedia, where it has already been implemented.

@Jdlrobson, @Lena_WMDE: I thought it would a simple task to enable "Reading preferences" at the user's preferences. As I told: we need both the "enable page previews" (as already done at the English Wikivoyage) and the "enable reference previews" options. The main case is to remove the gadgets as they are used now at the German Wikivoyage (to reduce maintenance work).

Please tell me what I (personally) can do to prepare the use of both tools at the German Wikivoyage. Please excuse my late answer but I have overseen your answers.

It is no problem to me to remove "Navigations-Popups" and "Reference Tooltips" from gadgets and to inform the community on these changes.

@RolandUnger let me know when you and the community are ready for the change, and I can likely enable it next week via one of the backport windows https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Backport_windows

I am ready, and the community, too. At German Wikivoyage, there is only a small community, and only a few users who are using the old tools. The community already decided to use the new tools. I will remove the gadgets, used up to now for the same aim, this weekend to prevent any conflicts.

Can you enable the "Reference previews" as mentioned by @Lena_WMDE, too?

hi @Jdlrobson - just confirming that from our perspective Ref Previews can be included in the deployment as a default feature once gadgets are disabled. Let us know if we can support with the backport.

Change 713013 had a related patch set uploaded (by Jdlrobson; author: Jdlrobson):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Enable page previews on German Wikivoyage

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/713013

I am ready, and the community, too. At German Wikivoyage, there is only a small community, and only a few users who are using the old tools. The community already decided to use the new tools. I will remove the gadgets, used up to now for the same aim, this weekend to prevent any conflicts.

Can you enable the "Reference previews" as mentioned by @Lena_WMDE, too?

I appreciate how clearly you've explained the situation with the old gadgets, but for other communities reading this task I want to add that Popups can be installed alongside any configuration of the legacy gadgets. Page previews and reference previews will independently self-disable whenever the user has a conflicting gadget enabled.

Change 713013 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Enable page previews on German Wikivoyage

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/713013

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-08-18T18:12:47Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: 559dd701a5859223afd49aaa33ddab70e8ebe721: Enable page previews on German Wikivoyage (T264305) (duration: 01m 08s)

Thanks for activating the previews.

This seems to be working great for me, but I have been unable to verify that the reference previews are working because I can't find a page that has references. Does anyone have one handy or have a way I can test on German Wikivoyage?

Searching for insource:"<ref>" gives this list, here's an example page with refs. Looking forward to feedback!

Contrary to Wikipedias, there is no obligation to use references in Wikivoyages. That's why there are big differences in usage among articles.

But reference previews are working as can be seen in https://de.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Ch%C4%81rga or https://de.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Siwa. The templates of the citation suite already support the reference previews in a manner which can be compared with the English Wikipedia. I only added a template named Anmerkung (Engl. note) to support the note type, too.

Page previews:

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Reference previews:

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Looking good! Resolving.