The current beta feature for the reply tool is called Discussion tools. Does this mean that the same preference will control both? (I have no problem with that, just think that it’s important enough that it should be decided on explicitly.) Also the variable controlling beta vs opt-out (currently opt-out on arwiki, cswiki and huwiki, T249394) is called $wgDiscussionToolsBeta—I’m pretty sure you don’t really want to make this work-in-progress feature opt-out on these wikis. (@matmarex, as far as I understand the patch, it would do exactly this, so please fix that before merging.)

In T269471#6671944, @Tacsipacsi wrote:

The current beta feature for the reply tool is called Discussion tools. Does this mean that the same preference will control both? (I have no problem with that, just think that it’s important enough that it should be decided on explicitly.)

Thank you for saying something about this, @Tacsipacsi. You doing so was the trigger we needed to file T270119 and T270120.

The tickets above will make it so the Discussion tools Beta Feature will control the Reply Tool and the New Discussion Tool in the near-term and most likely, the Reply Tool, New Discussion Tool and visual enhancements [i] in the medium-term.

Note: people will be able to enable/disable these features independently within the Special:Preferences.

Also the variable controlling beta vs opt-out (currently opt-out on arwiki, cswiki and huwiki, T249394) is called $wgDiscussionToolsBeta—I’m pretty sure you don’t really want to make this work-in-progress feature opt-out on these wikis. (@matmarex, as far as I understand the patch, it would do exactly this, so please fix that before merging.)

• @matmarex: is T270119 the best ticket to document what @Tacsipacsi is raising in the quoted bit above?

i. T249579: [EPIC] Usability improvements: make the actions, activity and content within talk pages easier to understand

Yeah

In T269471#6690866, @ppelberg wrote:

The tickets above will make it so the Discussion tools Beta Feature will control the Reply Tool and the New Discussion Tool in the near-term and most likely, the Reply Tool, New Discussion Tool and visual enhancements [iii] in the medium-term.

Cite error: The reference [iii] was never defined. :)

Where can I read about the visual enhancements?

In T269471#6704033, @Tacsipacsi wrote:

Cite error: The reference [iii] was never defined. :)

Where can I read about the visual enhancements?

Yikes – sorry about that. Right now, most of this thinking exists in this Phabricator ticket and its sub-tasks: T249579.

Notes from today's team meeting...

Next steps

• @ppelberg to update T273145's ===Deployment timing section with the date on which we would like for the New Discussion Tool to be offered as a Beta Feature at the Arabic, Czech and Hungarian Wikipedias.

In T269471#6782720, @ppelberg wrote:

Next steps

• @ppelberg to update T273145's ===Deployment timing section with the date on which we would like for the New Discussion Tool to be offered as a Beta Feature at the Arabic, Czech and Hungarian Wikipedias.

✅ Done in T273145#6835832.

In T269471#6671944, @Tacsipacsi wrote:

The current beta feature for the reply tool is called Discussion tools. Does this mean that the same preference will control both? (I have no problem with that, just think that it’s important enough that it should be decided on explicitly.) Also the variable controlling beta vs opt-out (currently opt-out on arwiki, cswiki and huwiki, T249394) is called $wgDiscussionToolsBeta—I’m pretty sure you don’t really want to make this work-in-progress feature opt-out on these wikis. (@matmarex, as far as I understand the patch, it would do exactly this, so please fix that before merging.)

@Tacsipacsi Btw I edited the text of a beta feature locally at cswiki, see this page. Default text says that the beta feature enables the Reply tool and the New discussion tool, but it is not true at cswiki (also at huwiki and arwiki), because this setting does not influence the Reply tool. I think it should be customized by default but, unfortunately, it is not.