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Enable the New Discussion Tool as a beta feature on Beta Cluster
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This task is about making it so the New Discussion Tool is available as part of the Discussion Tools beta feature on the Beta Cluster. [i]

To start, people wanting access to the New Discussion Tool will need to manually enable the Discussion Tools beta feature in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures at beta cluster wikis. [ii]

Behavior

Scenario A: To enable and use the New Discussion Tool

  1. Visit https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures
  2. Scroll the page to find the Discussion tools beta feature is present in this list of beta features in a disabled state (read: the checkbox next to it is unchecked)
  3. Enable the Discussion tools beta feature by "checking" its checkbox
  4. Visit any talk page on the beta cluster (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Talk:Cats)
  5. Click the New section tab at the top of the talk page
  6. ✅ Notice the New Discussion Tool [i] opens

Scenario B: To disable the New Discussion Tool after enabling the Discussion tools beta feature

  1. Visit Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing (read: https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing)
  2. Scroll to the Discussion pages section at the bottom of the page
  3. Notice the Enable quick topic adding setting is enabled (read: checkbox is "checked")
  4. Disable by the Enable quick topic adding setting by "unchecking" the checkbox next to it
  5. Visit any talk page on the beta cluster (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Talk:Cats)
  6. Click the New section tab at the top of the talk page
  7. ✅ Notice the existing section=new form appears

Done

  • The ===Behavior above is implemented

i. https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures
ii. The conversation around what should be considered before making the New Discussion Tool available by default, for everyone at Beta Cluster wikis will happen in T272077.

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Related Changes in Gerrit:
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Enable DiscussionTools' newtopictool as beta feature on Beta Clusteroperations/mediawiki-configmaster+9 -1
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 Resolved• Whatamidoing-WMFT273147 Consult with volunteers at en.wiki about offering the Reply Tool as a Beta Feature
 Resolved• Whatamidoing-WMFT273233 Update en.wiki Talk pages project page
 ResolvedmatmarexT276493 Make the Reply Tool and New Discussion Tools available as opt-in Beta Features at ru.wiki
 Resolved• Whatamidoing-WMFT275255 Consult with volunteers at ru.wiki about offering the Reply Tool as a Beta Feature
 ResolvedmatmarexT276494 Make the Reply and New Discussion Tools available as Beta Features at de.wiki
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ResolvedRyasmeenT269033 Add edit notice element to New Discussion Tool
 ResolvedppelbergT270454 Implement edit notice logic
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 ResolvedNoneT270797 Create way for individual pages to opt-in to using the New Discussion Tool for preloads
 ResolvedppelbergT274746 Create an easy way to link people to an open New Discussion Tool
 ResolvedppelbergT282204 Handle URLs for starting new sections
 Resolved• Whatamidoing-WMFT287804 Create deployment plan for scaling New Topic Tool as opt-out at all projects
 ResolvedmatmarexT287901 Revise empty Title field warning message display logic
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 ResolvedmpopovT277825 Run A/B test to evaluate impact of New Topic Tool
 ResolvedMNeislerT290204 [SPIKE] Estimate New Discussion Tool A/B Test Feasibility
 ResolvedDLynchT291308 Make config change to start New Discussion Tool A/B Test
 Resolved• Whatamidoing-WMFT291306 Identify wikis for New Discussion Tool A/B test
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ppelberg created this task.Jan 14 2021, 7:52 PM
ppelberg moved this task from Inbox to Upcoming on the Editing-team (Kanban Board) board.
ppelberg updated the task description. (Show Details)
gerritbot added a comment.Jan 14 2021, 8:54 PM

Change 655966 had a related patch set uploaded (by Bartosz Dziewoński; owner: Bartosz Dziewoński):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Enable DiscussionTools' newtopictool as beta feature on Beta Cluster

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/655966

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Jan 14 2021, 8:54 PM
gerritbot added a comment.Jan 14 2021, 11:03 PM

Change 655966 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Enable DiscussionTools' newtopictool as beta feature on Beta Cluster

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/655966

Maintenance_bot removed a project: Patch-For-Review.Jan 14 2021, 11:10 PM
matmarex moved this task from Upcoming to Ready for Sign Off on the Editing-team (Kanban Board) board.Jan 14 2021, 11:17 PM
Esanders subscribed.EditedJan 14 2021, 11:57 PM

I think we should just make the tool available by default on the beta cluster, as we did with the reply tool in T255223. The beta cluster is used for verification of just-merged features by engineers, QA, designers and the community. Making people sign in to do this makes this process unnecessarily slower.

Esanders added a comment.Jan 15 2021, 12:07 AM

Note also that the newtopictool was enabled by default on beta for the last 2 days, as we hadn't touched the config file for the beta cluster (only the file for production wikis). After the patch above was merged it is now a beta feature.

ppelberg updated the task description. (Show Details)Jan 16 2021, 3:10 AM

This seems to be working as expected. [i]

i. Scenario A and Scenario B (described in the task description) are working as described.

ppelberg added a subscriber: Ryasmeen.Jan 16 2021, 3:23 AM
In T272076#6749886, @Esanders wrote:

I think we should just make the tool available by default on the beta cluster, as we did with the reply tool in T255223. The beta cluster is used for verification of just-merged features by engineers, QA, designers and the community. Making people sign in to do this makes this process unnecessarily slower.

After talking with @Ryasmeen, we came to think there is value in keeping the New Discussion Tool deployed as a beta feature on the beta cluster initially [i] to ensure the pre-deployment QA we have planned [ii] will happen in an environment that closely resembles the environments where it will be available.

Once we verify the tool is working as expected in this environment, we can graduate it to an opt-out setting on the beta cluster.

i. Graduating the feature to an opt-out setting will happen in T272077
ii. T272200

ppelberg closed this task as Resolved.Jan 16 2021, 3:23 AM
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Esanders mentioned this in T272077: Enable the New Discussion Tool as an opt-out setting on Beta Cluster.Jan 16 2021, 4:40 PM
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