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Identify topic subscription "partner wikis"
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Description

This task is about identifying the Wikipedias we will work most closely with in designing and developing the Topic Subscription feature. [i]

Objectives

This section contains the objective of/reason for working with a subset of wikis as partners in the New Discussion Tool design and development processes.
Collaborate with a select number of wikis to increase the likelihood the new Topic Subscription feature causes Junior and Senior Contributors to receive timely and relevant responses to the things they say on Wikipedia talk pages.

Activities

Below is a non-exhaustive list of things we will collaborate with volunteers at our to-be-defined partner wikis on.

  • Ensure the Topic Subscription feature works in ways people expect it to
  • Ensure the Topic Subscription feature does not interfere with existing workflows
  • Ensure the Topic Subscription feature looks and functions in ways Junior and Senior Contributors deem to be intuitive

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Selection criteria

For now, we are drafting these criteria in this Google Sheet (limited access for now): Talk pages project/Partner wiki selection.

Partner wikis

Wiki codeVolunteer contact
arwiki@Dyolf77_WMF
cswiki@Patriccck
frwiki
huwiki@Samat
nlwiki
meta(no individual expected)
mediawikiwiki(no individual expected)

Done

  • Defined a list of partner wiki candidates that meet the ===Selection criteria
  • A minimum of three partner wikis have agreed to work with the Editing Team as "partner wikis" in designing and developing the Topic Subscription feature

i. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Talk_pages_project/Notifications

Event Timeline

Out of curiosity, why does our wiki partnership strategy change from feature to feature (or does it?)?

Out of curiosity, why does our wiki partnership strategy change from feature to feature (or does it?)?

I'm reading the question above as having a couple of parts. Those "parts" and "responses" are below.

Parts

  1. "What is our strategy for identifying and partnering with wikis in the development of new features?"
  2. "Why do the wikis we partner with sometimes vary from feature-to-feature?"

Responses

  1. "What is our strategy for identifying and partnering with wikis in the development of new features?"

For each new feature, @Whatamidoing-WMF and I define:

  • What the feature "promises"
  • Which projects and people are most likely to value said promises
  • Which "representation" looks like in the context of this particular feature (e.g. the project's language and script, the geographic location of the volunteers who contribute to a project, etc.)

I wonder if looking through the spreadsheet where Sherry and I do this thinking will be the most helpful way of understanding how the above come together: Talk pages project/Wiki selection.

  1. "Why do the wikis we partner with sometimes vary from feature-to-feature?"

In short, people and projects will identify with/value different features differently.

  1. "Why do the wikis we partner with sometimes vary from feature-to-feature?"

In short, people and projects will identify with/value different features differently.

Also, we often rely on one or two editors in a smaller community to keep us informed about what that community is thinking. If that person stops being available, then we may not be able to find anyone else in that community who is willing to provide in-depth help. Our volunteer partners may spend dozens of hours on a project over many months, and not everyone is both willing and able to do that.

Quick note: I think this might be useful for French Wikipedia, MediaWiki.org, and Meta-Wiki, as well as arwiki, cswiki, and any of the interested partners from previous projects.

Quick note: I think this might be useful for French Wikipedia, MediaWiki.org, and Meta-Wiki, as well as arwiki, cswiki, and any of the interested partners from previous projects.

All that you described above sounds good to me, @Whatamidoing-WMF.

Next steps
From the conversation Sherry and I had this afternoon:

  • Contact volunteers at ar.wiki, cs.wiki, fr.wiki, hu.wiki, meta.wiki, mediawiki.org, and nl.wiki to confirm their interest, or lack thereof, in having the Topic Subscription beta feature be made available at their projects in the coming weeks.

@ppelberg , this is done. All seven of the communities we've talked to would like to have this feature.

I note in particular a wish at arwiki to have it enabled in the entire Wikipedia: namespace, as being useful for admins. A per-page or per-namespace (default-on) setting is something that we might want to explore further as part of scaling or testing.

@ppelberg , this is done. All seven of the communities we've talked to would like to have this feature.

Excellent. I've communicated this on the project page: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Notifications&type=revision&diff=4620393&oldid=4620371&diffmode=source