Great work on the download button for export; I'm sure a lot of effort went into making it so seamless and easy on the user's part. That said, I do have a nit to pick where the options for file type (PDF, mobi, epub) explicitly call out a certain manufacturer and line of tablet computers. Instead of giving some free advertising to a tech giant, please rephrase the mobi text to "for certain models of tablet" or somesuch. Thanks.
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Hi, what is this about specifically? (Please describe what you expect and what happens instead and be specific to avoid misunderstandings.)
./i18n/en.json: "format-mobi": "MOBI (for Kindles)" ? Something else? Thanks. :)
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But it is for Kindles. We want to make things as easy as possible for those who just want to download. I reckon just leave it.
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What I expect: I press the button and I don't see anyone's brand name. What I get: I press the button and I see a brand name.
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There are many devices from many manufacturers that can process this content. Instead of giving an advertisement for a Big Tech abuser, just make it generic. If you have one of their proprietary jails, you know which file types it uses.
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Absent specific proposals for better wording I think the status quo works well enough. Far from every ebook user has any conception of file formats, much less any idea what kind is best for their device, so giving them enough information suited to their frame of reference to make a sensible choice is a priority.
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And don't make personality-based arguments. There are values behind the WIkimedia movement, including openness of standards, culture, code, etc. Giving some kind of advertising to *any* entity, particularly one who is very much against openness is a bad idea. My "prejudice" is in favor of the open/libre nature of these projects themselves.
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Indeed. But it was neither specific nor better for the purpose. If you can provide a specific proposal that addresses the purpose (which, to be clear, is to make downloads of ebooks as easy and convenient as possible for the greatest number of people we can) I'll be happy to consider it.
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This conversation reminds me of discussing the "Export to Excel" button in upstream Phab code in the past - basically https://secure.phabricator.com/T5908#72402.
IMHO the question should be "what allows users best to know which format they want/need". Do all the people who do know that they use a Kindle compatible device also know that they use "Mobi" format? If not, then the current phrasing might make sense.
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I don't see how I can be more specific than "for certain models of tablet" unless I listed the models of tablet, which is precisely what I'm saying we shouldn't do. Claiming that I didn't propose an alternative is just not true.
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Well, based on that ticket, I'm inclined to say that this won't be fixed. Thanks for providing the context.
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for certain models of tablet doesn't help me as a tablet owner to know if my model is "certain" or not. As a user I don't enjoy having to guess what I want/need. It's frustrating to download the wrong format because the UI was unclear. As I don't see a better proposal I'm boldly declining this.
(Furthermore, mentioning products is not "advertisement" per se. It can also allow disambiguation if your not into technical implementation details (such as file formats). For example, I'm not interested in downloading an application as a Linux™ package if I run Microsoft™ Windows™.)