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I ran into a problem in Russian Wikipedia that we have a very bad moderation of warning templates. They are not removed when the article has already been corrected.

It seems to me that this routine work can be made more interactive, by analogy with AddLink, the user is invited to look at the article and answer whether warning template is needed here.

I know this is a bit outside the scope of the help project for newcomers, but this task will help them indirectly. Since newcomers won't do extra work.

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hi @kostajh here is the ticket related to the project you mentioned above T274263: Add button to delete template in the context menu. It will be deployed to a first group of wikis on a voluntary basis around the middle to end of June. However, I don't think it solves the problem described in this ticket, although it makes it clearer/easier to delete a templates from the page with one click (in VE) anytime after it's been added.

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Moving to Needs Discussion as it's a suggestion about an actively developed component. (ping @MMiller_WMF)

Thanks for this idea, @Iniquity. We have definitely heard the complaint several times from newcomers that they open up suggested articles that actually no longer need the work suggested by the maintenance template. I agree this would be a valuable structured task for experienced users: for suggested articles that have been recently edited by newcomers, inspect them to see if the template should be removed. This could even be something we give to more advanced newcomers, like newcomers who have done over 100 suggested edits with few reverts. What do you think of that?

Thanks for this idea, @Iniquity. We have definitely heard the complaint several times from newcomers that they open up suggested articles that actually no longer need the work suggested by the maintenance template. I agree this would be a valuable structured task for experienced users: for suggested articles that have been recently edited by newcomers, inspect them to see if the template should be removed. This could even be something we give to more advanced newcomers, like newcomers who have done over 100 suggested edits with few reverts. What do you think of that?

I like this idea! The more gamification the better. But it's worth remembering the following:

  1. There won't always be enough people doing 100 hard and medium edits
  2. Hard and medium edits often require the glance of an experienced editor to determine if the template needs to be removed.

Perhaps, for beginners it is worth set up 100 edits, and for experienced ones 50 edits.

From a technical POV:

  • We'd have to identify articles which have a given template and have recently been edited with the appropriate type of suggested edit. This is not hard but probably too slow to do in real-time, so we would have to store the article list somewhere. (We could just use the search index for that, that would be analogous to how we handle Add Links and again easy to do.)
  • We'd need an appropriate structured editing UI.
  • We'd need to invalidate the task (remove from the search index) when someone manually edits it and removes the template. Seems fairly easy to do.

So, once we update our code to accommodate multiple different types of structured tasks, this seems like a relatively low-effort addition. How easy it would be for new editors (even if relatively experienced), I'm less sure.

OTOH I wonder if it could be integrated into mentorship and/or patrolling somehow, where someone is asked to review the edits of the original newbie and provide them guidance if necessary, and there is an easy one-click option to remove the template if the task was done well and fully.