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Enable a method of recording fair use images on Wikidata
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Feature summary (what you would like to be able to do):
I would like to record non-public domain seals, logos, etc. on Wikidata.

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Use case(s) (describe the actual underlying problem which you want to solve, and not only a solution):
Incorporating information into Wikidata about fair use images, ranging from logos (as in the American Airlines example above) to historical photographs (we have an item for the Tank Man photograph, but no way to include the actual photo itself).

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It's been noted on WD:talk that there's no consensus to do this, and so a technical implementation is premature.

It's been noted on WD:talk that there's no consensus to do this, and so a technical implementation is premature.

The note at WD:Talk seems premised on the idea that I'm proposing to host fair use images on Wikidata, not just link to them. That's a misunderstanding.

The note at WD:Talk seems premised on the idea that I'm proposing to host fair use images on Wikidata, not just link to them. That's a misunderstanding.

There's no reason to create a Phabrictor request when you want the ability to link to images. URL is already an existing datatype in Wikidata. The decision about what properties get created isn't one that belongs on Phabrictor but is made via property proposals.

@ChristianKl, the reason I brought it to phab is that I hope it might be possible to create a way to link to fair use images in a similar way as we link to Commons files, just without actually displaying them. That'd reduce the possibility for errors, would help if e.g. a file is moved, and only having to store a filename rather than a full URL just seems cleaner.

There's no such thing as a fair use image. There's fair use of images but no image has a property of being a fair use image. Integrating images from other Wikipedia's this way has the potential of making some of their images uses that are currently fair use not fair use anymore because it adds uses to the images. Such a functionality would infringe on the independence of other Wikiprojects. Hosting an image for the purpose of being referenced from elsewhere is not a purpose that's protected under US fair use law.

We had a lot of discussions on Wikidata about the properties regarding fair use images we want to have and none of this discussions lead to having one to link to images stored in individual Wiki's that aren't stored in commons. If WMDE would create a functionality as you request, there's a good chance that the functionality wouldn't be used by Wikidata. It's bad form to search changes on Phabricator that go against consensus on Wikidata.

The way we interact with Commons files works because there's only one Commons location. Any system that would allow multiple projects would need a way to specify which project is meant and URLs already do that.

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I just noticed https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Non-free_content . Setting this one to declined because clearly no community consensus exists at this moment in time.