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Talk and Contributions buttons for non logged in users aren't specific and may be misleading
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Currently, under the (···) button there is a "Talk" and "Contributions" link that is visually and textually different from the logged in users "My Talk" and "My contributions". It may be interesting to make buttons consistent, as logged-out users receive there messages, especially when they are blocked.

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I didn't assign it. Phabricator did.

It may be interesting to make buttons consistent

can you clarify what you mean? make the buttons more consistent with what?

What does the "Talk" and "Contributions" button makes different if you are logged in or logged out? As far as I can tell it, they do exactly the same thing, but using an IP instead of ar username. But the names are different: My Talk vs Talk . My contributions vs Contributions. Non logged in users should also read the MY, becuase actually they are going to see the contributions and talk topics raised to their IP. As long as anonymous users can contribute, and they have the same resources as logged in users, they should be able to understand what the button makes.

What does the "Talk" and "Contributions" button makes different if you are logged in or logged out? As far as I can tell it, they do exactly the same thing, but using an IP instead of ar username. But the names are different: My Talk vs Talk . My contributions vs Contributions. Non logged in users should also read the MY, becuase actually they are going to see the contributions and talk topics raised to their IP. As long as anonymous users can contribute, and they have the same resources as logged in users, they should be able to understand what the button makes.

I believe this is an issue with the local translation? For enwiki, the language matches logged-in and logged-out users. The reason the "my" is dropped is due to the creation of the user menu itself, which sets the expectation that all tools within it are personal.

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Vs euwiki

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Interesting point, @ovasileva. I didn't notice this difference in the Basque version. And the reason you mention is also really valid. The only point is that non logged in users don't have a person icon but a (···), so it doesn't suggest that it referes to you. We may think if everyone should adopt the "My" version or we should drop it (in Basque only?). What do you think about that?