I have a messy talk page moving history, turn on/off Flow/Structured Discussion more than one time, and the change of my Username in between has made this worse.

Here are the pages related:

• User talk:Ericliu1912/存檔 1 (Wikitext)
• User talk:Ericliu0806 (Structured Discussion)
• User talk:Ericliu1912/存檔 3 (Wikitext)

I'm not sure about the capability of Flow talk page manager moving talk page archive back to the talk page if it had been moved to another location.

I don't really know what happened, please help me.

(At the same time, I suffer from bug T294675 until this day [it is clearly not resolved], which makes adjusting my talk page's content model setting harder.)

(While this could be a separate problem, I suppose when my Username changed, my first Flow talk page didn't move with it?)

Same issue with my French Wikipedia talk page. About my case, I have not change my username, I just only disabled my Flow talk page.

I add some tags:

• Regression since it seems to be the same bug than T202358 or T184670
• Wikimedia-maintenance-script-run since a script call seems to be a solution to fix talk pages according to T202358#4531241

I think it's because that you had moved the archive page? (as the page history shows)

Actually, I have not moved the archive page, but replaced its wikitext content with a redirection syntax.

I just want to get my talk page back... Can anyone help?

kharlan@mwmaint1002:~$ mwscript extensions/Flow/maintenance/FlowFixInconsistentBoards.php --wiki=frwiki --namespaceName='USER_TALK'

Checked a total of 300 Flow boards.  Of those, 0 boards had an inconsistent title; 0 were fixed.

Checked a total of 600 Flow boards.  Of those, 0 boards had an inconsistent title; 0 were fixed.

Checked a total of 900 Flow boards.  Of those, 0 boards had an inconsistent title; 0 were fixed.

Checked a total of 1200 Flow boards.  Of those, 0 boards had an inconsistent title; 0 were fixed.

Checked a total of 1500 Flow boards.  Of those, 0 boards had an inconsistent title; 0 were fixed.
INCONSISTENT: Core title for 'u2n40cnpb19lsolp' is 'Discussion utilisateur:Sylvainremy', but Flow title is 'Discussion utilisateur:Sylvainremy/Structured Discussions Archive 1'
FIXED: Updated 'u2n40cnpb19lsolp' to match core title, 'Discussion utilisateur:Sylvainremy'

Checked a total of 1800 Flow boards.  Of those, 1 boards had an inconsistent title; 1 were fixed.

Checked a total of 2100 Flow boards.  Of those, 1 boards had an inconsistent title; 1 were fixed.

Checked a total of 2400 Flow boards.  Of those, 1 boards had an inconsistent title; 1 were fixed.

Checked a total of 2700 Flow boards.  Of those, 1 boards had an inconsistent title; 1 were fixed.
INCONSISTENT: Core title for 'us7ulclb2sveh9qu' is 'Discussion utilisateur:Pols12', but Flow title is 'Discussion utilisateur:Pols12/Structured Discussions Archive 1'
FIXED: Updated 'us7ulclb2sveh9qu' to match core title, 'Discussion utilisateur:Pols12'

Checked a total of 3000 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.

Checked a total of 3300 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.

Checked a total of 3600 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.

Checked a total of 3900 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.

Checked a total of 4200 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.

Checked a total of 4500 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.

Checked a total of 4800 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.

Checked a total of 5100 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.
INCONSISTENT: Core title for 'wk26goye7g2hor3p' is 'Discussion utilisateur:Jean-Paul 7000', but Flow title is 'Discussion utilisateur:Jean-Paul 7000/Structured Discussions Archive 1'
FIXED: Updated 'wk26goye7g2hor3p' to match core title, 'Discussion utilisateur:Jean-Paul 7000'

Checked a total of 5310 Flow boards.  Of those, 3 boards had an inconsistent title; 3 were fixed.

kharlan@mwmaint1002:~$ mwscript extensions/Flow/maintenance/FlowFixInconsistentBoards.php --wiki=zhwiki --namespaceName='USER_TALK'

Checked a total of 300 Flow boards.  Of those, 0 boards had an inconsistent title; 0 were fixed.

Checked a total of 600 Flow boards.  Of those, 0 boards had an inconsistent title; 0 were fixed.

Checked a total of 900 Flow boards.  Of those, 0 boards had an inconsistent title; 0 were fixed.
INCONSISTENT: Core title for 't6g5t1b9e14byp17' is 'User talk:Franklin Yu', but Flow title is 'User talk:Franklin Yu/结构式讨论 存档 1'
FIXED: Updated 't6g5t1b9e14byp17' to match core title, 'User talk:Franklin Yu'

Checked a total of 1200 Flow boards.  Of those, 1 boards had an inconsistent title; 1 were fixed.

Checked a total of 1500 Flow boards.  Of those, 1 boards had an inconsistent title; 1 were fixed.

Checked a total of 1800 Flow boards.  Of those, 1 boards had an inconsistent title; 1 were fixed.

Checked a total of 2100 Flow boards.  Of those, 1 boards had an inconsistent title; 1 were fixed.

Checked a total of 2400 Flow boards.  Of those, 1 boards had an inconsistent title; 1 were fixed.

Checked a total of 2700 Flow boards.  Of those, 1 boards had an inconsistent title; 1 were fixed.
INCONSISTENT: Core title for 'ucoqbc4nlack6ebn' is 'User talk:Ericliu1912', but Flow title is 'User talk:Ericliu1912/结构式讨论 存档 1'
FIXED: Updated 'ucoqbc4nlack6ebn' to match core title, 'User talk:Ericliu1912'

Checked a total of 3000 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.

Checked a total of 3300 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.

Checked a total of 3600 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.

Checked a total of 3900 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.

Checked a total of 4200 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.

Checked a total of 4500 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.

Checked a total of 4800 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.

Checked a total of 5100 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.

Checked a total of 5400 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.

Checked a total of 5582 Flow boards.  Of those, 2 boards had an inconsistent title; 2 were fixed.

@Pols12 @Ericliu1912 hopefully this fixes the issue for you?

Thanks a lot! That at least made my talk page not broken as for now. But am I able to disable Structured Discussions? It would probably break down again if I do that.

In T298426#7601140, @Ericliu1912 wrote:

Thanks a lot! That at least made my talk page not broken as for now. But am I able to disable Structured Discussions? It would probably break down again if I do that.

@Ericliu1912 maybe try it and see? If if breaks, I can re-run the script so it's unbroken, and then we will have to figure out what to do next.

In T298426#7601163, @kostajh wrote:

In T298426#7601140, @Ericliu1912 wrote:

Thanks a lot! That at least made my talk page not broken as for now. But am I able to disable Structured Discussions? It would probably break down again if I do that.

@Ericliu1912 maybe try it and see? If if breaks, I can re-run the script so it's unbroken, and then we will have to figure out what to do next.

OK I'd tried it, and it is now dead again. It seems that I would be "stuck in Flow" forever lol

In T298426#7601167, @Ericliu1912 wrote:

In T298426#7601163, @kostajh wrote:

In T298426#7601140, @Ericliu1912 wrote:

Thanks a lot! That at least made my talk page not broken as for now. But am I able to disable Structured Discussions? It would probably break down again if I do that.

@Ericliu1912 maybe try it and see? If if breaks, I can re-run the script so it's unbroken, and then we will have to figure out what to do next.

OK I'd tried it, and it is now dead again. It seems that I would be "stuck in Flow" forever lol

Oh dear. OK, I've rerun the script, it should be back to its Structured Discussion state.

I think one reason could be that I'd moved my Wikitext talk page archive from User talk:Ericliu1912/存档 2 (the default) to User talk:Ericliu1912/存檔 2 to User talk:Ericliu1912/存檔 3, which made the Flow talk page manager very confused when trying to revert the Wikitext talk page back since User talk:Ericliu1912/存档 2 is a redirect now, and just decide to give up halfway through (as my Structured Discussion description did have the archive template, I'd say that the convert script is not completely broken). Maybe.

Could we made Flow talk page manager track the movement?

Thank you, my page is “fixed”, however it is still in Flow state whereas my beta preference is unchecked.

Since Flow is deprecated, we surely want a way to safely disable those pages.

If I revert my change which turned the archive into a redirection, will this allow me to disable Flow? If so, should I then check and uncheck the beta feature, or proceed to a classical move?

Well now I just want to safely disable my Structured Discussion user talk page, have it peacefully moved to the archive, and never turn it back on ever again. can anyone help?

:(

In T298426#7720387, @Ericliu1912 wrote:

:(

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

In T298426#7642193, @Ericliu1912 wrote:

Well now I just want to safely disable my Structured Discussion user talk page, have it peacefully moved to the archive, and never turn it back on ever again. can anyone help?

It should be possible to do that. Can you try moving the talk page to a subpage and then switch off the Structured Discussions feature for your talk page in preferences? I know that @Urbanecm_WMF was able to do this on Wikidata (diff).

In T298426#7720664, @kostajh wrote:

In T298426#7720387, @Ericliu1912 wrote:

:(

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

In T298426#7642193, @Ericliu1912 wrote:

Well now I just want to safely disable my Structured Discussion user talk page, have it peacefully moved to the archive, and never turn it back on ever again. can anyone help?

It should be possible to do that. Can you try moving the talk page to a subpage and then switch off the Structured Discussions feature for your talk page in preferences? I know that @Urbanecm_WMF was able to do this on Wikidata (diff).

I think only administrators have the right to create Structured Discussions boards in any location. Therefore I can't move the page myself.

In T298426#7721071, @Ericliu1912 wrote:

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It should be possible to do that. Can you try moving the talk page to a subpage and then switch off the Structured Discussions feature for your talk page in preferences? I know that @Urbanecm_WMF was able to do this on Wikidata (diff).

I think only administrators have the right to create Structured Discussions boards in any location. Therefore I can't move the page myself.

That edit was made by me disabling the flow talk page beta function in my own preferences. I can try to move it for you manually, but I think it's best if the beta feature is first off in any case.

In T298426#7721139, @Urbanecm_WMF wrote:

In T298426#7721071, @Ericliu1912 wrote:

[...]

It should be possible to do that. Can you try moving the talk page to a subpage and then switch off the Structured Discussions feature for your talk page in preferences? I know that @Urbanecm_WMF was able to do this on Wikidata (diff).

I think only administrators have the right to create Structured Discussions boards in any location. Therefore I can't move the page myself.

That edit was made by me disabling the flow talk page beta function in my own preferences. I can try to move it for you manually, but I think it's best if the beta feature is first off in any case.

I've disable the feature in the beta tab. If could, please move the page to somewhere like "User talk:Ericliu1912/存檔 4".

Thanks @Ericliu1912 -- I tried to do the move from my WMF account, and it appears to be successful. Can you check the move is okay (and let me know if I need to do anything else)?

In T298426#7724109, @Urbanecm_WMF wrote:

Thanks @Ericliu1912 -- I tried to do the move from my WMF account, and it appears to be successful. Can you check the move is okay (and let me know if I need to do anything else)?

I think it is alright, and I sincerely thank you and @kostajh for your help!

@Urbanecm_WMF Can you also move my Flow talk page to Discussion utilisateur:Pols12/archive 2021, please?

In T298426#7808679, @Pols12 wrote:

@Urbanecm_WMF Can you also move my Flow talk page to Discussion utilisateur:Pols12/archive 2021, please?

Done. Can you check please?

In T298426#7808725, @Urbanecm_WMF wrote:

Done. Can you check please?

That works well, many thanks! 🙂