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Vector-2022-view-history message changed
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Hello! I found today that the (vector-2022-view-history) message has changed at euwiki from "Ikusi historia" to "Historia". I can't find the message at MediaWiki ns nor at Translatewiki. Where does it come from? Thanks

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Theklan created this task.Jan 25 2022, 3:24 PM
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Aklapper added a project: Vector (legacy skin).Jan 25 2022, 5:18 PM

I assume this is a side effect of T291098, and I don't see that message ID under https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&showMessage=vector-2022-view-history&group=mediawiki-skin-vector&language=eu&action=translate , indeed.

Theklan added a comment.Jan 25 2022, 5:26 PM

Interesting, @Aklapper, because three things happened at the same time:

  • The "View history" link changed to "history"
  • T300022
  • And some user plugins (like word count) now appear twice.

irudia.png (136×175 px, 3 KB)

• Jdlrobson claimed this task.Jan 25 2022, 7:41 PM
• Jdlrobson added a project: Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-FY-2021-22).
• Jdlrobson added a parent task: T299927: Deploy new Vector skin to all projects.
• Jdlrobson mentioned this in T299927: Deploy new Vector skin to all projects.
• Jdlrobson added a comment.Jan 25 2022, 7:48 PM

Word count: I'll deal with that separately. Not related and likely easily explained.

There is no vector-2022-view-history. I think the message you need to translate is history_short but the qqx code is not showing that correctly...

• Jdlrobson mentioned this in T300069: wfMessageFallback doesn't play well with qqx.Jan 25 2022, 7:51 PM
• Jdlrobson edited projects, added Readers-Web-Backlog; removed Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-FY-2021-22), Desktop Improvements (Vector 2022).Jan 25 2022, 8:29 PM

I've created T300069.
Does editing the message history_short on translatewiki support for you in the mean time?

Theklan added a comment.Jan 25 2022, 9:05 PM

I can edit history_short, but I guess that it should still be "short". Should it be changed?

Theklan added a comment.Jan 25 2022, 9:07 PM
In T300052#7650217, @Jdlrobson wrote:

Word count: I'll deal with that separately. Not related and likely easily explained.

Note that this happens also with other gadgets:

irudia.png (161×991 px, 18 KB)

• Jdlrobson added a comment.Jan 25 2022, 9:51 PM

Note that this happens also with other gadgets:

Please see T300070 for that issue.

• Jdlrobson closed this task as Resolved.Jan 26 2022, 7:13 PM
• Jdlrobson added a subscriber: ovasileva.

We discussed this task today. Ideally, this tab should always show the same message regardless of skin. For now, we recommend editing the message "MediaWIki:history_short". While the message is ill-named, the only place this message is ever used is inside the history tab and it doesn't need to be a single word, so it's fine to translate this to "View history". The implication of this change is that it will change the label in all skins.

Next steps:

  • We need to make it more obvious what message is actually being used (tracked in T300069, @ovasileva will following up with language team and platform engineering about getting that prioritized)
  • We need to reconsider/re-evaluate this behavior in T300183 in the context of the new skin architecture we're developing.
• Jdlrobson mentioned this in T300183: Reconsider skin-specific menu label item behaviour.Feb 3 2022, 3:34 PM
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