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many automatically generation citations lack author and date
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Description

List of steps to reproduce (step by step, including full links if applicable):

What happens?:
Citation is generated without author or date.

What should have happened instead?:
Citation should be generated with author and date.

Software version (if not a Wikimedia wiki), browser information, screenshots, other information, etc.:
Chrome 99.0.4844.51, Windows 10 Pro

Event Timeline

Aklapper changed the task status from Open to Stalled.Mar 15 2022, 8:06 AM

Hi, I guess this is about the "2017 wikitext editor" mode? (See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Editor for all those editors.)

I do not see any "Cite" button on https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=VisualEditor:Test&veaction=editsource :

Screenshot from 2022-03-15 09-05-18.png (320×1 px, 55 KB)

Please provide clearer steps, including URLs. Thanks!

Hi, thanks for the quick response.

I don't know which editor it is. The screenshots of the "VisualEditor" and the 2017 wikitext editor" from the editor page are indistinguishable. Mine looks exactly the same as both of them except it has a "Cite" button between the link button and the "structure" (bullet list) button. This is the feature described and pictured at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:VisualEditor/User_guide/Citations. It's apparently called Citoid.

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Danbloch changed the task status from Stalled to Open.Mar 15 2022, 9:22 AM

Hi folks!

I hope it's appropriate to do this on a Phabricator thread -- but we've identified a couple of threads such as this one where there are some issues with Citoid and automatic extraction / generation of metadata, and @diegodlh has been working on a community based solution for this problem, called Web2Cit. Web2Cit aims to solve some of those problems without having users to fiddle with Zotero translators or having a lot of technical skills.

On May 11 at 4 PM UTC we will be running a workshop to show the tool and allow users to test the early adopters version. If you're interested, you can register here: https://us06web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZIpfu2upj4sE9ZrqblmM3-QujaeqekAAINK

If you want to know more about Web2Cit or the workshop, check here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Web2Cit/Workshops

We would also greatly appreciate it if you happen to know anyone that might be interested in attending such a workshop and can handle some technical complexity.

cheers,
scann