Improve interlanguage links for talk pages
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MarkAHershberger
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From T28085:

The best way to make this 'work' is improvements to interlanguage links to make
them clean metadata; then we can easily pull the same links from the subject
page and show them on the talk page (actually, we could probably do that
already -- pulling the recorded langlinks from the subject page). Though
adjusting automatically to the matching talk page might take more workish.

They should, however, always be a matched pair, not separately added.


Severity: enhancement

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MarkAHershberger created this task.Via LegacyApr 18 2011, 10:06 PM
He7d3r added a comment.Via ConduitMar 6 2013, 11:35 PM

What about Wikidata?

He7d3r added a comment.Via ConduitJun 10 2013, 9:29 PM

Ping.

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.Via ConduitOct 8 2013, 1:52 PM

Can you please clarify what we're supposed to do here? It is not clear what this bug is supposed to achieve.

He7d3r added a comment.Via ConduitOct 8 2013, 3:17 PM

Suppose Q1234567890 is linked to

  • [[en:Foo:Bar]]
  • [[fr:Foo:Bar]]
  • [[pt:Foo:Bar]]
  • ...

In that case, each of the talk pages

  • [[en:Foo talk:Bar]]
  • [[fr:Foo talk:Bar]]
  • [[pt:Foo talk:Bar]]
  • ...

should have the "Language" section in the sidebar, with links to the talk pages in the list (i.e. the talk pages of pages which are linked to Q1234567890).

Unfortunatelly, the namespaces where this is more useful is precisely the ones Wikidata community decided not to link to any items:

  • User:Cross-wiki-vandal-fighter / User talk:Cross-wiki-vandal-fighter
  • MediaWiki:Gadget-very-useful.js / MediaWiki talk:Gadget-very-useful.js

So, part of this feature request cannot be solved by Wikidata (User and MediaWiki namespaces), but the other part can.

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.Via ConduitOct 9 2013, 6:39 PM

Thanks for the explanation Helder. This makes sense now.

He7d3r added a comment.Via ConduitNov 29 2013, 3:47 PM

I just found a similar request (but for special pages instead of talk pages) at
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat?oldid=90391621#Watchlists

JohnLewis added a comment.Via ConduitNov 29 2013, 3:50 PM

Special pages are linked through Wikidata fine. The fact the community does not want to link special pages is the issue here, not wikibase capabilities. I suppose it could be done automatically though.

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Qgil added a comment.Via WebDec 13 2014, 2:28 PM

Suppose Q1234567890 is linked to

  • ...

    In that case, each of the talk pages
  • ... should have the "Language" section in the sidebar, with links to the talk pages in the list (i.e. the talk pages of pages which are linked to Q1234567890).

This was my first thought too, but there is more:

Second thought: oh well, but not all articles have a discussion page, so we cannot reliably link to discussion pages if we don't know whether they exist or not.

Many additional thoughts:

  • Could a gadget query those pages and see whether they exist or not? But this would be an expensive operation for a neat feature that in most cases would not be used...
  • Should that information be stored in Wikidata after all?
  • Could we just show red links for the discussions missing?
  • Could 'whatever' be a good enough first approach, considering that the benefits still would outweigh the cost of sending some users to discussion pages to be created?
Qgil edited the task description. (Show Details)Via WebDec 13 2014, 2:29 PM
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aude added a subscriber: aude.Via WebFeb 20 2015, 11:44 AM

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Associated_namespaces might be of some use or help with this, to know in a more structured way which namespaces are "connected"

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